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Treebolts revisited

I noticed it immediately when he started to drill. I had to rub my eyes to see if I was seeing things. I went back and watched it again and confirmed my suspicions. Then I watched the rest of the video and he went into slow speed and you can clearly see the auger going into the tree instead of going out of the tree as he comments that it isn’t evacuating at all.
All I can hope for is that he’s from south of the equator. Lol
I hope he watched for responses before he sends the bit back in.


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PJC said:
I noticed it immediately when he started to drill. I had to rub my eyes to see if I was seeing things. I went back and watched it again and confirmed my suspicions. Then I watched the rest of the video and he went into slow speed and you can clearly see the auger going into the tree instead of going out of the tree as he comments that it isn’t evacuating at all.
All I can hope for is that he’s from south of the equator. Lol
I hope he watched for responses before he sends the bit back in.


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I read his post and replied without watching his vid. Youtube suck up data, so I seldom go to Youtube unless I am around wifi.
But after I got to wifi and watched it, I saw exactly what you described.
He should delete that thread. Very misleading.

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2rivers said:
Actually I've run it both ways... just to make sure that very thing did not happen, but yes in the video I put it in reverse because as you can see the bit got stuck in the tree, and i wanted to see if it would back out the shavings and then recommence to drill better. But for giggles I will go and try again for the 5th or six time. As you will see, the opposite direction is worse. I think it's the drill even though 20v is underpowered . After trial and elimination. But new to this bolt thing, might be missing something... I note that it does remove shaving initially better but gets stalled quicker as well.
Thanks for the help.
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Is your drill chuck set to “drill” or a lower clutch setting ?


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2rivers said:
****, if smartass was money you boys would be rich..... hope you all watched the second video as well. Right direction now and?
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I watched the second video although it’s kind of hard to see anything. When you drill in forward direction I see it biting and I see chips start to come but then you stop. Keep drilling. 20v is plenty of power. There was no sound on the video so I can’t tell if your cordless is ratcheting out or what. But the reason the bit pulls out hard is because it’s engaging the wood (drilling). If you keep twisting it around like that to get it out your going to bust off the tip, then it will be useless.


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2rivers said:
****, if smartass was money you boys would be rich..... hope you all watched the second video as well. Right direction now and? And yes the bit goes in 1/4 of the way I went in... and I put a bolt in it and it tore right out with just hand strength. It does not and has not ever went in like the hand drills full length. I want something secure as I am north of 275 lbs.
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Dude, have you ever used a drill before?

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PJC said:
I watched the second video although it’s kind of hard to see anything. When you drill in forward direction I see it biting and I see chips start to come but then you stop. Keep drilling. 20v is plenty of power. There was no sound on the video so I can’t tell if your cordless is ratcheting out or what. But the reason the bit pulls out hard is because it’s engaging the wood (drilling). If you keep twisting it around like that to get it out your going to bust off the tip, then it will be useless. Yes it is ratcheting right from the start.... yes I am afraid of stripping it out as I use it for other projects. It just spins i put my weight into and it does not go any further than what you see in video. I have to move it around to get it out of tree otherwise it is stuck like folks were seeing with some of the treehopper hand drill problems.
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PJC said:
I watched the second video although it’s kind of hard to see anything. When you drill in forward direction I see it biting and I see chips start to come but then you stop. Keep drilling. 20v is plenty of power. There was no sound on the video so I can’t tell if your cordless is ratcheting out or what. But the reason the bit pulls out hard is because it’s engaging the wood (drilling). If you keep twisting it around like that to get it out your going to bust off the tip, then it will be useless.


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I heard video sound...the drill is ratcheting.
Hey, Im known for jumping to conclusions...we all do it from time to time.
He is off the mark. Run the drill properly...in forward, on full drill and not ratchet, and it will work.
Don't feel bad bro...I've made mistakes, too...more than I'd like to admit. I'm famous for it. This time is your turn. Drill correctly and you'll be happy. Chin up.

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2rivers said:
****, if smartass was money you boys would be rich..... hope you all watched the second video as well. Right direction now and? And yes the bit goes in 1/4 of the way I went in... and I put a bolt in it and it tore right out with just hand strength. It does not and has not ever went in like the hand drills full length. I want something secure as I am north of 275 lbs.
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Lol. No worries. We’re just having fun with you. At your expense, admittedly, but we’re on your side. All in good fun.


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I think you said you got a new cordless. Is that right? They usually come with different setting so you don’t drip out screws and such with too much power. But for drilling you have to have it set to its highest power so it can power through the task at hand. Do you have an owners manual you can refer to?


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We have told you what you need to do.
You didn't start out asking us "how", you just made the vid mistakenly showing how the bit doesn't work.
I feel your pain...been there, done that with mistakenly jumping to conclusions. No big deal.
We can get a bit "smart ass" here but, seriously man, you are among friends. Sorry if we came down harsh.

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2rivers said:
Yep, you and Tom were both right, just cranked her up full bore, and yes I've won the forum dumbass of the month award... works like butter. "Directions" who needs em'? Sigh...... I get sidetracked..
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You just made me feel good about myself. Appears like Im not the only guy that goofs up occasionally.
Seriously, welcome to the club.
You are among friends here.

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2rivers said:
Yep, you and Tom were both right, just cranked her up full bore, and yes I've won the forum dumbass of the month award... works like butter. "Directions" who needs em'? Sigh...... I get sidetracked..
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Awesome! Glad to get it figured out. That’s why we’re all here.
You’re going to LOVE pre-setting trees and using bolts. Best way to climb on private land.
If you live in cold climate, don’t angle the holes too much. They fill with water and when it gets cold in late season they freeze up. You can drill out the ice but it’s not fun and you’ll get sweaty (if using a hand drill during season)


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2rivers said:
Ok my drill is 20v craftsman that has now been used 3x I got the treehopper bit and it is not any better that the first one for depth needed primary species I've tried to drill on, Box Elder, Cottonwood, Pine same results gumming up tip, no boring bast certain length. I anticipate someone noting drill may not be up to par, but I would think it would be with good batteries and little use :
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For my bit for a drill I went to Lowe’s and bought an Irwin speed bore bit and a standard spade wood bit and two 1/4 washers marked my depth and welded them on.


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Jimmyfunk60 said:
For my bit for a drill I went to Lowe’s and bought an Irwin speed bore bit and a standard spade wood bit and two 1/4 washers marked my depth and welded them on.


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Is it a 3/8" bit? How easily do bolts slide in and out? Treehooper uses 10mm (or is it 12mm) bits so bolts are easier to install and remove.

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I use to take a hand ratchet and force 1/2 inch lag bolts into trees for steps. is it really that hard to use a hand drill?
 
Allegheny Tom said:
Is it a 3/8" bit? How easily do bolts slide in and out? Treehooper uses 10mm (or is it 12mm) bits so bolts are easier to install and remove.

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I bought 15 grade 8 1/2” bolts x8” on eBay for $22 bucks and then bought 1/2” drill bits. I just have to come up with my own compact hand drill to pack with me or buy a 1/2” one made. I suppose I could retrofit my bit to a 3/8 treehopper one. IMG_0019.jpg


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