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What is going to save you? (Preparing for the worst)

DB4x4 said:
I think everyone should carry one of these 8' woven straps with them at all times, readily available in a dump pouch or pocket:

doublesteps.com

Daisy Chain Webbing

1″ polyester woven daisy chain that is very similar to the original Dutchware woven daisy chain sold at beginning of 2019. These straps are green/brown reversible and are available in 6.5&#82…
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You can feed it through one of the loops near the end, which creates a small foothold loop. Then throw the end opposite the foothold around the tree. Feed the foothold loop through one of the "top end" loops. This girth hitches it to the tree with the foothold loop at the bottom. You can stand in the foothold loop to take pressure off of your tether. Your lineman belt can be used in tandem to steady yourself.

This allows you to either lower your tether and inchworm down the tree, or creates enough slack to setup your rappel system if you use an ATC/autoblock or figure 8/autoblock.

In addition to being a useful self rescue tool, you can use the daisy chain strap as a gear/pack hanger on the tree, a foot strap for SRT climbing, and/or a deer drag. (Just to name a few)

It is so cheap, so light, packs up so small, and can be used for so many things...GET ONE (or two)

* OK @DanO - Do I get some commission when you sell 300 of these in the next week? Haha :cool:
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I keep an 8 Ft. amsteel daisy chain in one of my dump pouches to use just for that purpose. I also carry a folding screw in Cranford step in my pack.If I need to I could screw in the step to take the pressure off then use the spare daisy chain,my tether and linesman's belt to work my way down the tree.
 
Heres my emergency kit. Stays on the saddle. If for no other reason, this is a good one to practice 2TC. Almost every emergency decent situation (except rappel) will result in needing to be able to use this method.
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A lot depends on the climbing method and tree girth. Don't sleep on the bearhug shimmy for most trees...and for large diameter trees...sanity check the ease of deploying your backup.
 
Still new here, and really just curious what y’all are up to. I’m not a hunter, but I’m a working climber/ arborist, and occasional recreational climber, and I’m nuts about climbing gear. Still muddling my way through the forum and checking out the techniques and gear.

These tethers y’all are using, do they reach all the way to the ground?
Do you always have a quick and safe route to the ground?
 
Bango Skank said:
Still new here, and really just curious what y’all are up to. I’m not a hunter, but I’m a working climber/ arborist, and occasional recreational climber, and I’m nuts about climbing gear. Still muddling my way through the forum and checking out the techniques and gear.

These tethers y’all are using, do they reach all the way to the ground?
Do you always have a quick and safe route to the ground?
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new as well, but feel comfortable answering, someone may add more detail: tethers do NOT usually reach the ground, they're roughly 8 foot, sewn eye/ girth hitch etc around the tree trunk above/at your head height so likely doesn't go very far past most peoples feet. there's a few people that use a full length to ground tether and use it to descend. from what ive read these people also use it on the way up, or "climb" with rope only- SRT/DRT (im guessing you're more familiar with these terms as a climber than i am?). the majority of people use climbing sticks- think of them as metal "mini ladders" that you strap to the tree (they dont touch the ground, fully supported by tree strap, some use multiple sticks and leave them, some use one stick and a tether and move the stick up the tree with them.

ultimately the answer to your second question should be yes, but seeming like more of a maybe. if nothing fails, yes. if something does, maybe. gotta upgrade that maybe to a yes.
 
thedutchtouch said:
new as well, but feel comfortable answering, someone may add more detail: tethers do NOT usually reach the ground, they're roughly 8 foot, sewn eye/ girth hitch etc around the tree trunk above/at your head height so likely doesn't go very far past most peoples feet. there's a few people that use a full length to ground tether and use it to descend. from what ive read these people also use it on the way up, or "climb" with rope only- SRT/DRT (im guessing you're more familiar with these terms as a climber than i am?). the majority of people use climbing sticks- think of them as metal "mini ladders" that you strap to the tree (they dont touch the ground, fully supported by tree strap, some use multiple sticks and leave them, some use one stick and a tether and move the stick up the tree with them.
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I COMMEND THIS FELLA!

New guy but obviously been reading a bit and using the search function over the past month.

Good for you buddy!

Mods, can we gold star this guy?
 
DB4x4 said:
I think everyone should carry one of these 8' woven straps with them at all times, readily available in a dump pouch or pocket:

doublesteps.com

Daisy Chain Webbing

1″ polyester woven daisy chain that is very similar to the original Dutchware woven daisy chain sold at beginning of 2019. These straps are green/brown reversible and are available in 6.5&#82…
doublesteps.com doublesteps.com

You can feed it through one of the loops near the end, which creates a small foothold loop. Then throw the end opposite the foothold around the tree. Feed the foothold loop through one of the "top end" loops. This girth hitches it to the tree with the foothold loop at the bottom. You can stand in the foothold loop to take pressure off of your tether. Your lineman belt can be used in tandem to steady yourself.

This allows you to either lower your tether and inchworm down the tree, or creates enough slack to setup your rappel system if you use an ATC/autoblock or figure 8/autoblock.

In addition to being a useful self rescue tool, you can use the daisy chain strap as a gear/pack hanger on the tree, a foot strap for SRT climbing, and/or a deer drag. (Just to name a few)

It is so cheap, so light, packs up so small, and can be used for so many things...GET ONE (or two)

* OK @DanO - Do I get some commission when you sell 300 of these in the next week? Haha :cool:
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I had it on my to do list to make a 7/64" amsteel daisy chain for self-rescue in the manner you described. Can you see advantages to the webbing instead? I suppose the webbing would be easier on the foot.
 
Red Beard said:
I COMMEND THIS FELLA!

New guy but obviously been reading a bit and using the search function over the past month.

Good for you buddy!

Mods, can we gold star this guy?
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Thanks for the encouragement, you're a name I recognize as expert on here, and have heard a few youtube shout outs as well. There is tons to read and learn on here. and toys to buy as a result. I don't know what's feeling more worn out right now, the search button or the wallet, here's to hoping it translates to success on saturday!
 
always89y said:
Heres my emergency kit. Stays on the saddle. If for no other reason, this is a good one to practice 2TC. Almost every emergency decent situation (except rappel) will result in needing to be able to use this method.
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mind breaking this down? What is it? Hows is it used? Where could i pickup a plan B kit like this?
 
Anybody using a DRT or SRT arborist method of climbing? I've started doing DRT. It's nice to know I can repel anytime. I tether myself sometimes if my DRT line isn't hanging me in right position, but I can grab it in a second, reattached, and descend if my platform failed. Although I will say I've had some scary oh-s*** moments with my knot not holding when I was first practicing. Once I mastered it, then I started climbing trees for real.
 
Bango Skank said:
Still new here, and really just curious what y’all are up to. I’m not a hunter, but I’m a working climber/ arborist, and occasional recreational climber, and I’m nuts about climbing gear. Still muddling my way through the forum and checking out the techniques and gear.

These tethers y’all are using, do they reach all the way to the ground?
Do you always have a quick and safe route to the ground?
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Hey Bango! I just started doing DRT after watching the NY Saddle Hunters on YouTube. I will tether to the tree sometimes after DRT climbing if my DRT line isn't putting me in a good position. The TethrdNation saddle tether isn't super long and will hang a few feet. I used to get the lifeline ropes from Hunter Safety Systems brand as a an easier way to tether and climb with sticks or whatever - best if preset. But now, anything I preset I DRT. Have you ever DRT a saddle hunt?
 
raisins said:
I had it on my to do list to make a 7/64" amsteel daisy chain for self-rescue in the manner you described. Can you see advantages to the webbing instead? I suppose the webbing would be easier on the foot.
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I would see webbing being easier to throw around the tree in some cases.

But I prefer multitaskers. All of my carabiners are load rated. My gear hanger (evaluating an amsteel daisy as alternative, but same applies) is a climb-rated daisy chain.
 
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