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What war are we going into, and why is there no ammo anywhere?!?!

sweats said:
I used to frequent a hunting forum for my state that allowed political and religious discussions. It got to the point that the majority of the threads had nothing to do with hunting. In fact, if you just looked at the top 5 discussions on any given day you probably wouldn't even guess it was a hunting forum.

I much prefer the rules here. It keeps things on topic and if you want to talk politics there are literally thousands of other places to go do it.

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Hunting beast is like that too. Gets stupid really fast. I’m here to talk hunting. Keeps me in check as well.
 
I read the ammo makers are currently producing more ammo than ever before. The problem is that the US had record gun sales in 2020 and about 8 million first time gun buyers. So the people that already had guns wanted to buy extra ammo for social/political reason which strained the ammo supply and the 8 million new gun owners just put it over the edge. The article said best case scenario ammo supply will back to normal by summer but if the new administration does certain things the ammo shortage could last into 2022. Article for Reference
 
SaddleUpPartner! said:
I heard arrows are still available!
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hmmm -- I had issues getting my bow tuned this season -- the shop said most parts (like strings and such) were on perennial backorder. I didn't believe them. I was at another archery shop last month and they said the same thing -- nothing in stock....
 
jerry_d said:
hmmm -- I had issues getting my bow tuned this season -- the shop said most parts (like strings and such) were on perennial backorder. I didn't believe them. I was at another archery shop last month and they said the same thing -- nothing in stock....
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Order some strings on line of you need it. Catfishcustom or 60x? Have then made, and take them in and put on if you need them.
 
Plebe said:
Yeah, I’m worried for my turkey season with ammo nowhere to be found. I’ve only 1 shell left from last season....might have to bring the bow.
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You won't regret it. The best turkey hunting because you see so much. It can get boring sitting in the blind but my experience has been a lot of game and turkey sightings and opportunities. I think of it more like I'm using deer hunting strategies for turkeys but I can have fun calling more than I do with deer.
 
woodsdog2 said:
You won't regret it. The best turkey hunting because you see so much. It can get boring sitting in the blind but my experience has been a lot of game and turkey sightings and opportunities. I think of it more like I'm using deer hunting strategies for turkeys but I can have fun calling more than I do with deer.
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I got a decent Tom on the second day of the season last year, and my brother got a nice one later on, but my best day was when my brother and I called in a hen together, and had her walking past us for nearly an hour. I could have reached out and just grabbed her. It was hilarious. Eventually my brother had to get up and go to work, spoiling the ruse.

I passed up more deer this year archery hunting than I can remember, and ended up empty handed. Saw some nice Toms though; maybe it’s my year for an archery bird. That’d be fun.
 
Plebe said:
I got a decent Tom on the second day of the season last year, and my brother got a nice one later on, but my best day was when my brother and I called in a hen together, and had her walking past us for nearly an hour. I could have reached out and just grabbed her. It was hilarious. Eventually my brother had to get up and go to work, spoiling the ruse.

I passed up more deer this year archery hunting than I can remember, and ended up empty handed. Saw some nice Toms though; maybe it’s my year for an archery bird. That’d be fun.
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I really enjoy mouth calling with a hen out front working the decoys. They're just as territorial as a big ole tom and getting them going gets the toms in eventually. You can get in a lot of fun calling with potential productivity. I love hearing and mimicking the close in calls like the purrs, whips, clucks, whines, and whirls.
 
I was in the Cabelas in Hamburg PA yesterday, most ammo shelves were bare. Very little outside of target shotgun shells.00EF9C7E-8C55-4A64-BF2F-5DD74BFA0382_1_105_c.jpeg
 
I was working the gun counter the first ammo shortage I've ever heard of. It was after the Sandy Hook shooting. Watched people push carts so loaded down with ammo the wheels would barely roll.
 
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I’ve never seen it this bad. 22lr,and all your at stuff makes since. But .270, .243 etc makes no sense. People here are buying ammo for guns they don’t even own.
 
EricS said:
I’ve never seen it this bad. 22lr,and all your at stuff makes since. But .270, .243 etc makes no sense. People here are buying ammo for guns they don’t even own.
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"influencers" are fueling this by telling people to buy everything and then trade it later for what they want....so now you have some dingus with a crate of 260 nosler for a gun he doesn't own hoping to trade it for 5.56....and this also induces panic buying among others

it's like the toilet paper thing, it's a bulky item and there are fewer big cubes on the shelves than cans of beans...everyone buys one cube and the shelves get bare fast compared to everyone buys a few cans of beans....people saw that and it created a scarcity and hoarding mentality

interestingly, 12 gauge buckshot has stayed sold out and even last spring was pretty sold out online....my reasoning is it is so common a chambering that everyone thought to get some 00 or 000 to turn what they had more "tactical"....actually pretty good reasoning...I wanted a few boxes and couldn't find anything other than brands I'd never heard of
 
EricS said:
I’ve never seen it this bad. 22lr,and all your at stuff makes since. But .270, .243 etc makes no sense. People here are buying ammo for guns they don’t even own.
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It was the same after Sandy Hook, at least here. The only thing we had on the shelf was cowboy rounds at first. Then people would by them and sell them on the internet. We would have a line of 20 or 30 people hours before we opened every day. Even worse if it got out that we had received a shipment. If I were a smart man with capital to invest, I would start an ammo plant.
 
It got crazy here after sandy hook for about a week. After that it was just 22lr and cheap FMJ ammo. I’ve got plenty. Unless you live on a secure compound you don’t need more than you can carry.
 
I don't understand what's going on. I grind bullet dies all day every day for a lot of bullet manufacturers. They can't get enough hand gun dies. Mostly 9mm and 45 a few rifle dies mixed in. We never had a single day off during the pandemic. My guess is the military and police are hoarding what is being produced now. I just want some .308 and 6.5 ammo out deer rifles. Crazy!

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The shortages started ramping up during early Covid lockdowns, increased as police were unable to contend with summer/fall riots, and increased again as the party of gun control took the Presidency and Congress.

Anecdotal... I've been watching Gun.Deals, AmmoSeek, Reddit/r/GunDeals etc for months on this. The least affected calibers I've seen are 7.62x39 (because of it's world-wide ubiquity) and 12ga bird shot. And they're still north of $.50/round, where 5.56 is $.90 or more lately.

Parts experienced a similar upward curve in cost and downward curve in availability - also due to demand... but lately I've seen a slight downward movement in cost on things like uppers, BCGs, lowers. Maybe it'll bode well for ammo costs too... but I just bought some 7.62x39 AND a new upper to send it, and hoo boy, even the brands that get dissed for low QC are expensive.
 
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