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1simplemann

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Anyone want to see what a bone crushing Ashby arrow can do? I don't know how to post pics. Who wants to post them for me. I'll text them to you.
 
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Think you missed the point of the post. And maybe didn’t read the whole thing.

I appreciate the advice though!

Anyhow, i squared up a branch somewhere between 10-20 yards out at the top of the shot window. My bow, with an arrow shooting 315fps with all else being equal, would’ve passed 2” lower at that distance. Doesn’t seem like a lot. But I miss the branch.

I wasn’t trying to make any point other than that thing is a thing. With a visual demonstration.
Likewise if you'd been shooting the 315 and hit the branch you didn't see, the slow arrow would have avoided it.
 

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Heavy vs light is tough because it is so relative. My arrow is around 610 grains because that's where it ended up, I wasn't really trying for any certain weight. Before that they were 510 grains. I always shoot Easton axis and grab them when on sale no matter the spine and always cut them to 28 7/8. For someone with a 30inch even longer draw pulling 70 lbs that would be considered a light or bottom end of middle of the road arrow. For me shooting at 27.5 draw at 63lbs it is considered by most a heavyish arrow, but in all reality not even 10 grains per pound of draw. So some would not consider that heavy. So again it is a very relative matter and personal to each shooter. I have no clue what would actually be considered light, middle of the road, or heavy. There are just too many variables
 

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Anyone want to see what a bone crushing Ashby arrow can do? I don't know how to post pics. Who wants to post them for me. I'll text them to you.
Thank you, JHS909. I just want people to realize how deadly this type of set can be. The arrow on each of these deer went thru heavy bone that some people say can't be or shouldn't even be attempted.
 
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Thank you, JHS909. I just want people to realize how deadly this type of set can be. The arrow on each of these deer went thru heavy bone that some people say can't be or shouldn't even be attempted.
No problem my friend, congratulations on an awesome deer. And the other one as well. Pictured below
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These two go together even though I posted one of them previously. Correct me if I am wrong @1simplemann
 

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@1simplemann congratulations! How'd you get the helix sharp? I like them but darn if I weren't going backwards sharpening then
 

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The buck in the snow is a perfect example of why I built this set up. He came in twice before chasing a doe but she zigged instead of zagged and he followed her. The 3rd time he came in alone following the scent trail of some does that had passed behind me downwind earlier. There was no shot in this direction . Nothing. Plus I wasn't going let him get downwind. I was almost sure that was where he was going to go. He was 20 yds facing me. Lip curling. I figured this was my only chance so I drew when he lifted his head to lip curl again. I aimed right for the middle of his chest. He turned at the shot and the arrow caught him in the right shoulder knuckle and came out his belly. He struggled to run but ran into the next 3 trees. He tipped over 40 yds away. My taxidermist is my processor. He was convinced that I shot this buck w/ a rifle. He knows I don't rifle hunt. He'd never seen an arrow destroy a shoulder like that. I really wish he had saved that shoulder so I could have show people.
 

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Anyone know how those Magnus Buzzcuts or any of the Magnus 150 grain heads with 100 grain inserts? I’m just wondering if they go through bone like a single bevel will or do they bonk off. I’m debating whether I should go 200 grain single bevel Iron Will with bleeders or go with something a little lighter. I’m hunting white tails, no Elk or anything.
 

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Sorry man, when I was posting them I didn't notice the snow vs no snow pictures. I jumbled them all up. I was just copying them from the texts
 

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The Sept. buck has a crazy story. Toughest deer I've EVER killed. I killed him in the 1st 2 hour of my season last year. I knew he was there and knew he walked by that tree every night so I figured he walked by it in the morning as well . The wind is wrong in the evening for that tree.. I figured he would be there at 1st light. Wrong. No deer. I only had 2 hours to hunt before work. 1/2 hour before I have to get down I finally see my 1st deer. Here comes the bachelor herd of bucks that I had been watching. He was in the lead. He made a scrape and then came through the grass right to me. I had him at 20 yds quartering to me. I almost shot him then and I told myself to come up the front of the leg with my pin if I did do shoot him. Anyway, I was looking for the velvet 10pt that was with him the night before. But there was no sign of him. As I was waiting, I then realized that he WAS the velvet buck. It's time to shoot or he's gonna get away. I was rushing a bit. By now he's broadside so for some reason I still came up the front of the leg with my pin instead of the back. I let er rip and holy cow! That arrow broke both shoulders and he went down on his chin and pushed for 50 yds and stopped. Here's crazy part. There's nothing but vitals between the shoulders. He should've been dead in seconds if not minutes. His head was still up so gave him some time. I got down, went back the truck, put my stuff away, called work and then decided to get some help getting him out. I came back 3 hours later and he was still there with his head up. He wouldn't let me get close and he lunged into some brush and grass to get away. We finally got him to trapped so I could shoot him. It took 3 more shots to put him down and he fought through every one. Tough deer. The shoulder knuckle you see hanging out his leg is the exit, The pic of him sort of washed is the entrance and the pic of the bloody mess is the inside of his hide. Those white specs are bone fragments. Both shoulder bones were fractured and not through the scapula. The big tree you see behind me is the monster cottonwood I was in.
 

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The smaller buck in snow is just a basic quartering away shot. 18 yds. The hole you see is the exit. That shoulder was mush. He didn't run very well. Tipped over 60-70 yds away. I was aiming for that opposite shoulder. With My old set up, the arrow would've stopped there. I would have still got him but 2 holes is much better for tracking.. I should have let him grow up another year but it hard to pass. I had an itchy trigger finger! Bird in the hand beats 2 in the bush. However, I really should have let him go though. A rogue 150-160" type buck that we didn't know existed showed up 2 days later for about a week. I wanted a crack at him but didn't have a tag.
 

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Anyone know how those Magnus Buzzcuts or any of the Magnus 150 grain heads with 100 grain inserts? I’m just wondering if they go through bone like a single bevel will or do they bonk off. I’m debating whether I should go 200 grain single bevel Iron Will with bleeders or go with something a little lighter. I’m hunting white tails, no Elk or anything.

I run 125 grain Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts in front of 100 grain inserts (565 grains total arrow weight). Last year I split a rib and buried it in the ground on the other side. Curled the tip where it hit a rock, deer ran 40 yds. This year I put a finishing shot in one that another guy had hit. There was a branch in the way and I had to crowd the shoulder. It broke the leg just below the ball and was sticking 6" out of the other side. That one was trashed, edges chipped and the tip was curled. Magnus will replace them but I haven't bothered to send them in.
 

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I run 125 grain Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts in front of 100 grain inserts (565 grains total arrow weight). Last year I split a rib and buried it in the ground on the other side. Curled the tip where it hit a rock, deer ran 40 yds. This year I put a finishing shot in one that another guy had hit. There was a branch in the way and I had to crowd the shoulder. It broke the leg just below the ball and was sticking 6" out of the other side. That one was trashed, edges chipped and the tip was curled. Magnus will replace them but I haven't bothered to send them in.
Thanks for the info. I’m going back and forth on a number of broadheads. I’m having my string replaced so I’ll need to go through my test kit again to see what flys good. I messed around with my test kit before and the 200 grain(100 grain insert) 250 spine shot bullet holes. 175 flew pretty similar and the 150 and 125 flew like crap. I want to test them again when my bow comes back. I’d like to try the magnus stuff first because they’re the cheapest but I might do the 200 grain Iron Will single bevel with bleeders because that weight flew the best without question.
 

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Thought this might be useful. Would you guys that have tested agree, generally, with the chart? All bows and shooters are different
 

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@Horn I would agree like all charts, it is a starting point. Looks a little on the stiff side side at least the portion of the chart I was looking at.
 
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Thought this might be useful. Would you guys that have tested agree, generally, with the chart? All bows and shooters are different
I would agree with @BTaylor seems like it errs on the stiff side, but that should pose fewer issues than being underspined with a compound, so fairly useful to those looking for a ballpark area to jump into
 
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