Why don't yall 2TC?

[NMSbowhunter]

2TC'd this two trunked beauty this morning. I really like these two trunked trees. I used the other trunk as a back rest. I was really well hidden too.

 

[Gmccarthy19]

Thinking of giving this a try. Right now my preferred method is to single stick up and rappel down but it can be pretty noisy in most of the trees where I hunt. How does 2TC compare noise wise on soft bark pines? I typically don’t have that far of a pack in so my main concern is stealth.

 

[Samcirrus]

Thinking of giving this a try. Right now my preferred method is to single stick up and rappel down but it can be pretty noisy in most of the trees where I hunt. How does 2TC compare noise wise on soft bark pines? I typically don’t have that far of a pack in so my main concern is stealth.

Depending on your technique and experience, as well as rope type. Moving a tether 1 sticking makes the same noise moving a tether 2TCing. It also depends on how much metal is in your system. I have 2 carabiners for my two bridges' attachment points to the tethers.

 

[krub6b]

Thinking of giving this a try. Right now my preferred method is to single stick up and rappel down but it can be pretty noisy in most of the trees where I hunt. How does 2TC compare noise wise on soft bark pines? I typically don’t have that far of a pack in so my main concern is stealth.

I've never climbed a pine or 1 sticked but I feel like the answer to this depends on what part of one sticking on those trees is perceived as noisy to you, if it's moving your tether than 2TC may not be the answer, but if it's setting your stick that creates noise 2TC is a viable option. If the noise is just from any contact with the bark I would say some form of rope climb will be the only way to quiet that down.

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[NMSbowhunter]

On pines and white oaks the bark can be a bit noisy if you don't go slow. Getting the tethers tight helps with this since I keeps them from crunching bark. It is sort of a natural sound thought. Like a raccoon or squirrel climbing a tree.

 

[Gmccarthy19]

Thanks for the feedback! Seems like worst case it would be about the same but potentially quieter. I think all the videos I’m seeing are trying to show how quick you can get up the tree not how quiet. A good portion of the noise generated over sticking for me comes moving and resetting the stick. Unfortunately most pines where I hunt are like telephone poles, no branches until you get really high and even then they are spindly and weak so a form of rope climb isn’t an option.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

One of the trees in my yard I used to get proficient at 2TC is a pine. We have lots of pines where I hunt. Here is a pine I climbed the other day to hunt out of. Also pictured is a shaggy barked white oak. If you want to be quiet, you just slow down a bit. Even then, 2tc is as fast of faster than sticks. I was lugging 4 full length lone wolf sticks around last year and an aider on the bottom. With that set up I was getting an honest 20 feet to my ring of steps, and it was taking 15 to 20 minutes to set up. I was tired be the time I got to the tree to set up. With this 2tc set up I can put everything I need in the backpack and be 20 to 25 feet up in 7 to 8 minutes and be hunting. That's taking my time and being deliberate. At home, over the summer I was climbing to 20 feet in 5 minutes once I was hooked in.

Try it out low and slow. Just make a move or two up then back down. Don't try to climb high at first. Don't try to add a bunch of stuff to it like rappelling, etc. either. That can come later. Just learn the moves and see if you like it. Be safe and let me know if I can help.

 

[Gmccarthy19]

One of the trees in my yard I used to get proficient at 2TC is a pine. We have lots of pines where I hunt. Here is a pine I climbed the other day to hunt out of. Also pictured is a shaggy barked white oak. If you want to be quiet, you just slow down a bit. Even then, 2tc is as fast of faster than sticks. I was lugging 4 full length lone wolf sticks around last year and an aider on the bottom. With that set up I was getting an honest 20 feet to my ring of steps, and it was taking 15 to 20 minutes to set up. I was tired be the time I got to the tree to set up. With this 2tc set up I can put everything I need in the backpack and be 20 to 25 feet up in 7 to 8 minutes and be hunting. That's taking my time and being deliberate. At home, over the summer I was climbing to 20 feet in 5 minutes once I was hooked in.

Try it out low and slow. Just make a move or two up then back down. Don't try to climb high at first. Don't try to add a bunch of stuff to it like rappelling, etc. either. That can come later. Just learn the moves and see if you like it. Be safe and let me know if I can help.

Thanks that looks pretty close to what I’m dealing with tree wise!

 

[NMSbowhunter]

This is my kit I am using to hunt with this season. So far, I am loving it. Here in MS, we have no shortage of pine trees.

 

[gcr0003]

This is my kit I am using to hunt with this season. So far, I am loving it. Here in MS, we have no shortage of pine trees.

That’s pretty slick. I’m using 2TC and the fix but I’m wanting to convert to ROS. It’s hard to leave the fix though!

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Love the ring of steps. I have never used a platform. I like how the ring of steps allows me to be close to the tree.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

Love the ring of steps. I have never used a platform. I like how the ring of steps allows me to be close to the tree.

How long do you hang? I spent 4 hours on a ROS and my feet were killing me when leaning after 2 hours.


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[phatkaw]

Hahaha
4 hours of ANYTHING and my feet are killing me.

 

[Hall17]

That’s pretty slick. I’m using 2TC and the fix but I’m wanting to convert to ROS. It’s hard to leave the fix though!

I can’t get away from a platform either. I tried the ROS just not my thing.

 

[kyler1945]

Hahaha
4 hours of ANYTHING and my feet are killing me.

Don’t make me say it.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

My average hang is 5 hours and is no problem with a platform but 2 hours max on a ROS before my feet start voicing their displeasure.

The ROS is perfect if I could figure out a long sit.


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[NMSbowhunter]

I have done 7 hours last season. My normal sits are about 4 hours. I think the key is whether you are a leaner or a sitter. I sit 95% of the time. I'd say most of my weight is in the saddle (I use a 2 panel Recon). I only lean to stretch my legs and when I am anticipating having to move to make a shot. The steps are really just there to rest my feet on and as leverage to move.

It's like sitting in a ballpark chair and having my feet on the ground.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

I will say that sitting is far more comfy with a ROS.


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[NMSbowhunter]

Most of the time I just rest my hands in my lap and lean forward into the bridge and zone out waiting to hear some sound to tell me an animal is moving. It's very comfortable.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I had a question about the foot loop so is here is a picture of the current configuration that is working well. It is made of 14 feet of Sampson Predator 11,4mm rope. One end had the normal loop for girth hitching the tree. The other is tied into a Blakes hitch loop with a stopper knot. I added a 6 inch piece of 1 inch rubber hose from the hardware store to keep the loop spread out so it is easier to get my foot in. This is only really an issue coming down the tree in the dark. I also added a strip of reflective wrap to each end so I could see where to put my foot in the dark.

On the foot loop between the grith hitch loop and the Blakes is a Distel hitch with a carabiner. The Distel is tied out of 9mm cord. This serves several purposes. Initially it was there to serve as a means to go around limbs. I can clip my bridge into the hitch, take out slack, sit into it, then disconnect my main tether, go around a limb and reattach the main tether to my bridge. In actual hunting I have not needed this feature yet. The main purpose it has been serving is to clip my backpack into so I can set my ring of steps, and as the backpack holder once I am up at hunting height. I move the foot tether up about 8 inches under the main tether, slide the Distel up to the top, and clip the backpack in. Backpack lives at about the 1 o'clock position, out of the way. I use a HME 3 hook gear hanger between the top and foot tether.