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Why don't yall 2TC?

Allegheny Tom said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, and I know it's been said in many threads, but you guys suck. Now I have another saddle related expense! Lol.
I've always hunted private properties where bolts were permitted but I am expanding my horizons and need to apply public legal climbing. I hate sticks but will use them if I have to.
But 2tc intrigues me. I'd like to give it a fair try. I've read this thread and my head is spinning.
I need to watch the videos.
Like any aspect of what we are doing, these tactics morph as time goes on, and a lot of what we do is very individual.

One question I have, are Recon type saddles with bungee belt, webbing bridge, and no leg straps compatible with 2tc?
Thanks for all the input.
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I think it could be challenging to lengthen your webbing bridge at height. I've SRT climbed with my Recon and I had to completely unweight to adjust the webbing bridge.

It's not a big deal if you have a platform, but could be an issue with a ROS.

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Teddy9871 said:
I got a question for the 2 tc guys. You guys using this method on a wet day ?
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Teddy, I have no trouble climbing 2TC on a wet tree (including a few beech trees) however when hunting in the rain I hate packing up the wet ropes. Then hanging them when I get home so that they dry out for the next use. Then again, you will have that with any method of using in the rain.


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cmcclain88 said:
Teddy, I have no trouble climbing 2TC on a wet tree (including a few beech trees) however when hunting in the rain I hate packing up the wet ropes. Then hanging them when I get home so that they dry out for the next use. Then again, you will have that with any method of using in the rain.


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I've always wondered about the ROS folks in these conditions, straddling a wet cold tree. :grimacing:

There are more hunter friendly systems for a day of rain. But sometimes the weight penalty means you're wet with sweat before you even get to the tree too.
 
Teddy9871 said:
I got a question for the 2 tc guys. You guys using this method on a wet day ?
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Yes, and snow and cold. Only birch would be troublesome when wet. We dont have alot of ice on trees up here so the snow brushes off easily.
 
Hey everyone

Am looking to start 2TC next season. Have a question about the tree attachment..
It would appear to me that with this method you are effectively attached to the tree only by the top tether. So while you are moving top teather, you are standing on your footloop while hugging tree with your second foot.
This transition seems to be pretty sketchy cuz if your foot slips or you loose balance your top girth hitch is loose.

Am I misunderstood anything?
What happens in this case or am I simply overthinking this? Lol

Thank you


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gettingstarted said:
Hey everyone

Am looking to start 2TC next season. Have a question about the tree attachment..
It would appear to me that with this method you are effectively attached to the tree only by the top tether. So while you are moving top teather, you are standing on your footloop while hugging tree with your second foot.
This transition seems to be pretty sketchy cuz if your foot slips or you loose balance your top girth hitch is loose.

Am I misunderstood anything?
What happens in this case or am I simply overthinking this? Lol

Thank you


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I get what your saying but the girth hitch will grab the tree even if it’s a little loose
 
Ok, I gave it another shot. I tried it a while back and just about went upside down, lol. I took the 40 feet of Canyon Elite I bought for 1 sticking (haven't got everything yet) with the delta link as my top tether. For the bottom I used an old 8mm tether with a prussic and carabiner. To the end of this I added a foot loop I sewed up today. I put a Distel hitch above a figure 8 for the rappel option. I climbed in my Recon saddle. I have to admit that the option to just rappel out if things went sideways got me to give this another try. I didn't want to have to call the fire department to get me out of the tree.

I have to admit it was a lot easier to do this time, kind of like the second time I tried DRT. This makes me optimistic that I can refine this into a viable system for me.

I went about 10 feet up and rappelled back down.
 

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Take this as constructive criticism as we're always learning a new, better way from others but, K.I.S.S.

Unlike other climbing methods, 2TC is simple and minimalist. Before adding the complexities of mechanicals, using a rappel line as a tether, sewing who knows what or anything else, just take your tether and linemans belt out and try it. Try it out several times, giving you the chance to figure it out. Once you figure it out, then you can add the complications that may make it easier for you.
 
MNFarmHunter said:
Take this as constructive criticism as we're always learning a new, better way from others but, K.I.S.S.

Unlike other climbing methods, 2TC is simple and minimalist. Before adding the complexities of mechanicals, using a rappel line as a tether, sewing who knows what or anything else, just take your tether and linemans belt out and try it. Try it out several times, giving you the chance to figure it out. Once you figure it out, then you can add the complications that may make it easier for you.
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Good advice for sure. I only used the rappel line so I would not get stranded up the tree, lol. The first time I tried it I was very hesitant to go far at all worried I would get stuck and not be able to get back down.

When you say regular tether and regular lineman's belt, I assume you mean use the regular tether on top and use the lineman's for the foot loop? Thanks for the help. I'm new to this method.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
Ok, I gave it another shot. I tried it a while back and just about went upside down, lol. I took the 40 feet of Canyon Elite I bought for 1 sticking (haven't got everything yet) with the delta link as my top tether. For the bottom I used an old 8mm tether with a prussic and carabiner. To the end of this I added a foot loop I sewed up today. I put a Distel hitch above a figure 8 for the rappel option. I climbed in my Recon saddle. I have to admit that the option to just rappel out if things went sideways got me to give this another try. I didn't want to have to call the fire department to get me out of the tree.

I have to admit it was a lot easier to do this time, kind of like the second time I tried DRT. This makes me optimistic that I can refine this into a viable system for me.

I went about 10 feet up and rappelled back down.
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Silly question,
Did you use figure 8 on the way up?


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gettingstarted said:
Silly question,
Did you use figure 8 on the way up?


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I just had it set in one position and moved the top tether up when I stepped up on the bottom tether. Then sat back down in the top. When I got ready to come down, I took off the bottom tether, moved the twist tie thing at the top (can't remember the name of it) and rappelled down. Don't take any of this as the way to do it. It is just the way I did it and it may be totally wrong.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
Good advice for sure. I only used the rappel line so I would not get stranded up the tree, lol. The first time I tried it I was very hesitant to go far at all worried I would get stuck and not be able to get back down.

When you say regular tether and regular lineman's belt, I assume you mean use the regular tether on top and use the lineman's for the foot loop? Thanks for the help. I'm new to this method.
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Yep. Connect your tether to your bridge. Tie a bowline in one end of the linemans belt (foot loop) and girth hitch the other end around the tree. This is the bare minimalist approach. Other things make stuff easier but isn't required to climb.
 
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