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Why don't yall 2TC?

Ok, so I did my first few 2TC climbs over the weekend. Overall I'm impressed with the simplicity and the REALLY low amount of gear required. I used my regular tether (JX3 standard with the ball) for the tether and a ropeman 1. I did some fiddling with the footloop after the first climb.

I started with the CGM 2tc amsteel / footloop (did not try the thighloop yet). For the record I hate prussiks on amsteel and this was no exception. It was also tough to move up the tree (walnut) because of the rope's lightness. I used my lineman's rope (also JX3 standard) as a foot tether using the CGM prussic cord and CGM footloop. I had a 1/8 amsteel daisychain which worked great to pass limbs, then set up my ROS at height. I'll make some adjustments and go at it again.

First, thanks to all y'all (plural of y'all) for your videos and sharing of your methods. It really shortens the learning curve. Here's what I learned in my own playtime.

- The CGM footloop is very comfy but it sucks to take it off and put it back on when passing limbs. I might try to rig up my 'swaider or make a shorter version of my JRB garda loop to try next time. Or I use the CGM footloop in a swaider configuration so I can unclip it from the foot tether.
- The stiffer rope was way easier to move than amsteel, however the CGM amsteel foot tether would also be good for passing limbs so I'll pack that and the daisy chain since I use that as a gear hanger.
- When attaching your ROS, run the strap BEHIND your tether rope (not on top of it).
- I like rappelling but coming down by 2TC is really easy and unless I've passed a bunch of limbs going up, I'm not sure it's worth packing the extra gear to rappel.
- I will NOT forget my kneepads next time.

Anyway, just sharing another 2TC newbie report. Thanks again for all the guidance.
Sean
 
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And this was my first rodeo with a transformer saddle I picked up from a member here. It performed great and was very comfy. I 'hung out' on my ROS for about a 1/2 hr. Not a long sit but I didn't feel any pinch or any discomfort sitting or leaning or moving around.
 
WECoyote said:
Ok, so I did my first few 2TC climbs over the weekend. Overall I'm impressed with the simplicity and the REALLY low amount of gear required. I used my regular tether (JX3 standard with the ball) for the tether and a ropeman 1. I did some fiddling with the footloop after the first climb.

I started with the CGM 2tc amsteel / footloop (did not try the thighloop yet). For the record I hate prussiks on amsteel and this was no exception. It was also tough to move up the tree (walnut) because of the rope's lightness. I used my lineman's rope (also JX3 standard) as a foot tether using the CGM prussic cord and CGM footloop. I had a 1/8 amsteel daisychain which worked great to pass limbs, then set up my ROS at height. I'll make some adjustments and go at it again.

First, thanks to all y'all (plural of y'all) for your videos and sharing of your methods. It really shortens the learning curve. Here's what I learned in my own playtime.

- The CGM footloop is very comfy but it sucks to take it off and put it back on when passing limbs. I might try to rig up my 'swaider or make a shorter version of my JRB garda loop to try next time. Or I use the CGM footloop in a swaider configuration so I can unclip it from the foot tether.
- The stiffer rope was way easier to move than amsteel, however the CGM amsteel foot tether would also be good for passing limbs so I'll pack that and the daisy chain since I use that as a gear hanger.
- When attaching your ROS, run the strap BEHIND your tether rope (not on top of it).
- I like rappelling but coming down by 2TC is really easy and unless I've passed a bunch of limbs going up, I'm not sure it's worth packing the extra gear to rappel.
- I will NOT forget my kneepads next time.

Anyway, just sharing another 2TC newbie report. Thanks again for all the guidance.
Sean
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I'm reading with interest. I've got some branches to trim by my pole barn off a half-dozen or so jack pines, and I think 2TC will be faster and easier than 1-sticking. Some of them are decently angled. I think I've got some YouTube time in my future here.
 
Iron_llama said:
I'm reading with interest. I've got some branches to trim by my pole barn off a half-dozen or so jack pines, and I think 2TC will be faster and easier than 1-sticking. Some of them are decently angled. I think I've got some YouTube time in my future here.
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Prolly be best to trim those pines right above the dirt.
 
Rather than read through 100 posts...LOL....has anyone 2TC with a 2 panel saddle? Were there any issues with doing it that way? Thanks for your replies!
 
BigAl said:
Rather than read through 100 posts...LOL....has anyone 2TC with a 2 panel saddle? Were there any issues with doing it that way? Thanks for your replies!
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Nothing wrong with a 2 panel for 2tc. They do help to be very comfortable sitting. I use a diy transformer clone for two seasons now with no problems. One issue I had with a Treehopper style 2 panel was without leg loops and a decent belt I found sometimes I could slip out of it or twist it on my hips at least enough to be uncomfortable. As long as you can manage that you’ll have no problems.
 
Stunned into silence? Yes these quizzes happen every once in awhile in order to make sure everyone is keeping up to date!
 
BigAl said:
Rather than read through 100 posts...LOL....has anyone 2TC with a 2 panel saddle? Were there any issues with doing it that way? Thanks for your replies!
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Yes. I use a Recon saddle and it works great. This is my full kit, minus bow.
 

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Yes. I use a Recon saddle and it works great. This is my full kit, minus bow.
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So I would expect a short bridge would be best for 2TC. How are you handling that with the Recon?

Also, did you do the bungee belt mod?

Thank you.

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gcr0003 said:
Nothing wrong with a 2 panel for 2tc. They do help to be very comfortable sitting. I use a diy transformer clone for two seasons now with no problems. One issue I had with a Treehopper style 2 panel was without leg loops and a decent belt I found sometimes I could slip out of it or twist it on my hips at least enough to be uncomfortable. As long as you can manage that you’ll have no problems.
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Awe Man!

You gave in waayyy too quick!
Make him read... hahahaha
 
sweats said:
So I would expect a short bridge would be best for 2TC. How are you handling that with the Recon?

Also, did you do the bungee belt mod?

Thank you.

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I pull the Recon down under my butt with both panels overlapped, pull the waist belt down tight so the panels can't move and then climb as normal. When I unweight it, it stays put. Then when I sit down it is where it needs to be. I set my bridge about 16 inches and never move it.

The picture below shows me sitting in the recon moving the foot tether up. Just sit down, advance the foot tether and then stand up again to take slack off the main tether, advance the top tether, then sit back down again.
 

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BigAl said:
Rather than read through 100 posts...LOL....has anyone 2TC with a 2 panel saddle? Were there any issues with doing it that way? Thanks for your replies!
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I run a recon minus leg loops with no issues, I do keep the belt pretty snug. I've tried the bungee belt mod a couple different ways and haven't settled on one that I love yet. I need to start tinkering with that again and try to dial in a setup that works for me with it.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
I pull the Recon down under my butt with both panels overlapped, pull the waist belt down tight so the panels can't move and then climb as normal. When I unweight it, it stays put. Then when I sit down it is where it needs to be. I set my bridge about 16 inches and never move it.

The picture below shows me sitting in the recon moving the foot tether up. Just sit down, advance the foot tether and then stand up again to take slack off the main tether, advance the top tether, then sit back down again.
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Thanks for the information.

Follow-up question though. On my Recon at least, the end of the belt that is on the outside of the metal part that the bridge goes through are plastic. If I were to tighten the belt so much that the sling can't slide down, I would expect there would be a lot of pressure and weight placed on the obviously weak plastic when I sat down.

Has that changed on the Recon? Are you a lighter guy?

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