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Wild Edge Climb 7 ft. Per Step

Same for me. Was just"practicing" over the weekend as I was helping build a platform on private land. They failed to plan appropriately and didn't have enough ladders to do the job. I used the bwaider with three steps & was about 20 ft up once I set my platform. I just need to tie a tether from by bwaider to my saddle as I almost dropped it more than once

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So I made one, can't say I like it better than a K/S, but I’ll use it for checking my cameras that I hang high. Easy to pack in one WEI step with it and a knaider.
For climbing high I’ll either use the K/S, or just the knaider, and sacrifice weight for more stability.

I'll attach pics later, but I made it with a piece of VERY hard ebony wood, and some leftover Wild Edge ropes. I'll bet it weighs as much as a WE step.

One difficulty, was the wooden step part wanted to sit flush against the tree, so I had to pull it out with my toe going down.

Oh well, had to try it!
 
Readycookedbacon said:
So I made one, can't say I like it better than a K/S, but I’ll use it for checking my cameras that I hang high. Easy to pack in one WEI step with it and a knaider.
For climbing high I’ll either use the K/S, or just the knaider, and sacrifice weight for more stability.

I'll attach pics later, but I made it with a piece of VERY hard ebony wood, and some leftover Wild Edge ropes. I'll bet it weighs as much as a WE step.

One difficulty, was the wooden step part wanted to sit flush against the tree, so I had to pull it out with my toe going down.

Oh well, had to try it!
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Were you attaching the bwaider to the crossbar, or the V?

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backstrap19 said:
Ok guys, im the old guy that has a bigger beer gut than id like. I have a bad back. Im NOT flexible in the least. Im not agile in a tree. I dont trust my body to do complicated tasks in the air. Putting it simpler: im old and ive lost more than a step.

With all that being said, i love the idea of this system. So ive come up with the geriatric version of the bwaider. I was not super comfortable hooking into the knaider loop on the way down. So i tried to come up with a way to modify the bwaider system to meet my physical limitations. I skipped the first knaider loop and instead put a 2ft aider loop under the wood step. All of my measurements are very conservative so that i can make the steps in any conditions with any clothing on.

It goes like this:

Hang WE step about 6'6" or up to 7ft, depending on personal preference. Attach old man bwaider. Step up about 24" into first loop with right foot. Step onto wood step with left foot (about 24"). Then knaider onto WE step(about 32").

I made it out of tubular webbing with a speedy stitcher. This isn't the best pic, but you get the idea.
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Hey Backstrap how does your old man bwaider work for you? Ive got a bad foot and back from a car crash and the k/s wasnt working for me safely but this system is what i have been thinking about and then boom i find it already thought over and tested/used. How much easier does it make climbing?

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1978circa3 said:
Hey Backstrap how does your old man bwaider work for you? Ive got a bad foot and back from a car crash and the k/s wasnt working for me safely but this system is what i have been thinking about and then boom i find it already thought over and tested/used. How much easier does it make climbing?

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I would like to tell you that it would work great for you, but if the k/s wasn't working, I'm not sure if it will. what did you not like about the k/s? I will say that it works well for me. I'm VERY unflexible, and can't lift my knee very far to knaider onto the wild edge step. The old man version being all in line helps with stability also. you could customize your setup to make each step even shorter. I find this sytem or the bwaider to be the most efficient system that i've used so far. If you let me know what you didn't like about the k/s, I can give you a better idea if this system might work for you. oh, I also have a bad back, I can't lean forward very well at all.
 
backstrap19 said:
I would like to tell you that it would work great for you, but if the k/s wasn't working, I'm not sure if it will. what did you not like about the k/s? I will say that it works well for me. I'm VERY unflexible, and can't lift my knee very far to knaider onto the wild edge step. The old man version being all in line helps with stability also. you could customize your setup to make each step even shorter. I find this sytem or the bwaider to be the most efficient system that i've used so far. If you let me know what you didn't like about the k/s, I can give you a better idea if this system might work for you. oh, I also have a bad back, I can't lean forward very well at all.
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Well first off i couldnt get my knee up and back in line to get the knaider hooked. Let alone the distance needed to make the system beneficial. My son who is 15 had no problem with it as he is getting used to it. I feel that with it being inline it will make out much better and safer. I broke all my ribs and my back in 8 places and my neck in 4 places and my left foot/ankle in several places too 5 years in the wreck and it's left me pretty stiff. I've regained most of my strength and can climb well when i climb smart. I switched around the k/s trying out on both feet and I need the knaider on my right foot and then just putting my left foot on the wood step and then to the w/e step. I think its gonna work good.
I've made all my own gear- saddle, aiders,backpacks, platform, etc. Im gonna make the bwaider and get that going now. Thank you for helping me with this. I may have more questions for you too. Gotta get this figured out quick because bowseason opens up soon.

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1978circa3 said:
Well first off i couldnt get my knee up and back in line to get the knaider hooked. Let alone the distance needed to make the system beneficial. My son who is 15 had no problem with it as he is getting used to it. I feel that with it being inline it will make out much better and safer. I broke all my ribs and my back in 8 places and my neck in 4 places and my left foot/ankle in several places too 5 years in the wreck and it's left me pretty stiff. I've regained most of my strength and can climb well when i climb smart. I switched around the k/s trying out on both feet and I need the knaider on my right foot and then just putting my left foot on the wood step and then to the w/e step. I think its gonna work good.
I've made all my own gear- saddle, aiders,backpacks, platform, etc. Im gonna make the bwaider and get that going now. Thank you for helping me with this. I may have more questions for you too. Gotta get this figured out quick because bowseason opens up soon.

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In that case, then YES, definitely pursue either the bwaider or old man version. the good thing about making your own gear is customizing it to your own size. I have the same problem getting my knee in line and up to the step to hook in. that's why i made my top step smaller than some guys are making them. if you keep that top step where you knaider from standing on the wood to hooking onto the WE step under 30 inches, you'll find success. I recently made a version that has a 24 inch last step. it is REALLY easy to hit that step, and i can still get about 6ft per step.
 
Hey I just came across this method of climbing. I was wondering if something like this would work? I just threw it together quick. Wondering if anyone had tried something along these lines.
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PAguy21 said:
Hey I just came across this method of climbing. I was wondering if something like this would work? I just threw it together quick. Wondering if anyone had tried something along these lines.
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I've messed with pvc a little bit on a bwaider setup. The main issue I had was it wanted to roll a lot. That can make it hard to hit the knaider loop hard to hit on the way down. I also filed down the inner edges of the pvc so it didn't cut the webbing under tension. It's a great system, isn't it??
 
backstrap19 said:
I've messed with pvc a little bit on a bwaider setup. The main issue I had was it wanted to roll a lot. That can make it hard to hit the knaider loop hard to hit on the way down. I also filed down the inner edges of the pvc so it didn't cut the webbing under tension. It's a great system, isn't it??
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I haven't had a chance to climb with it yet. The system looks awesome though. This is my first year with the wild edge steps. I've been using muddy pros the past 3 seasons. I've been using a 3 step aider with the WE steps this year. The bwaider looks like it going to work awesome. I can't wait to get my knaider to give it a try.

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I finally got my knaider and built a wooden boogie woogie aider. All I can say is it the easiest way I have found to climb with the wild edge steps. Very easy and I feel so much more stable compared to my 3 step aider.

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Here is the latest evolution of my bwaider. This particular model was made to be as small and lightweight as possible. Including the carabiner it weighs 6 ounces. I used the webbing strap from a hawk stick instead of rope. It is lighter, takes up less space in my bag, and doesn't slide through the wooden step like rope. For my knaider loop, I also used webbing. I folded the webbing in half to make it a bit more stiff. This keeps it horizontal and easier to find with the knaider hook while climbing down. I spot stitched the fold to hold it in place and sewed the webbing together in the back. Again, I used webbing because it takes up a fraction of the space of rope/knots. The hawk strap already has a sewn loop at the end so I just girth hitched it around my carabiner to avoid spinning. For the other end of the strap I just tied an overhand knot when I found the correct size step for me. I thought about stapling the strap to the wood underneath if it began to slide, but the strap hasn't moved since the day I built it. I built this in April and have been using it since. So far, so good! Added note: The hawk strap goes under the wood so if the wood were to fail, I'd still be supported by the strap. The sewn knaider loop is sewn through the hawk strap as well so if the wood were to fail around the knaider loop, the hawk strap would catch the sewn loop.
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@HuumanCreed check this out for the stepps.


BJRoth2 said:
Here is the latest evolution of my bwaider. This particular model was made to be as small and lightweight as possible. Including the carabiner it weighs 6 ounces. I used the webbing strap from a hawk stick instead of rope. It is lighter, takes up less space in my bag, and doesn't slide through the wooden step like rope. For my knaider loop, I also used webbing. I folded the webbing in half to make it a bit more stiff. This keeps it horizontal and easier to find with the knaider hook while climbing down. I spot stitched the fold to hold it in place and sewed the webbing together in the back. Again, I used webbing because it takes up a fraction of the space of rope/knots. The hawk strap already has a sewn loop at the end so I just girth hitched it around my carabiner to avoid spinning. For the other end of the strap I just tied an overhand knot when I found the correct size step for me. I thought about stapling the strap to the wood underneath if it began to slide, but the strap hasn't moved since the day I built it. I built this in April and have been using it since. So far, so good! Added note: The hawk strap goes under the wood so if the wood were to fail, I'd still be supported by the strap. The sewn knaider loop is sewn through the hawk strap as well so if the wood were to fail around the knaider loop, the hawk strap would catch the sewn loop.
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Thats nifty right there sir. i like how compact that gets with the webbing.

i can git down wit da boogie. 3 steps and your golden. 8 steps and...thats too high for a PEEJ
 
I’m currently using 3-4 wild edge steps and a 5 step petzl aider , little bit of a learning curve but overall light weight and fast . Key is to make sure your first step is back towards your heel and your toe is pushing out from the tree. Can easily get 20-27 feet.
 

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