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Woodsman broadheads

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Woodsman® Original Series 3-Blade Glue-On Broadheads, 6-pack

Just bought a pack of 6 for my Doug-Fir wood arrows, glued on 1 just to test out. Hitting way low compared to tips, arrow with head on spins true, anyone else have this issue with these heads? Or maybe it is just the 3 blades. Maybe need to try a 2-blase version.
 

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Is the arrow tuned to your bow? Have you shot a bare shaft? Hitting low would indicate a high nock point. They are big heads and require a well tuned arrow but they should shoot.
 
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I have used them since they came out. 125gr cedar shafts.
Never had a issue.
Wish I could help. Nock point could be problem
 

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Yes I went through several test wood arrows, bare shaft, paper tune, etc.
Got five new ones still in package maybe I will sell and try some smaller single blades.
My first choice was to try single bevel 2-blade, maybe should have tried that.
Good to experiment though or you never know.
 

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You probably need to adjust your nock on your string a little.

Does your bow seem loud for some reason? I listen for a click when I shoot. If my arrow is hitting the bow on release I know I have a problem. Up and down is usually nock height.
 

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Noise at shot is super quiet (675 grain total arrow weight). I cant some, maybe 2-O'clock or so.
My nock is set at 3/8 above zero.
 

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Question on nock point height, if hitting low, would'nt you adjust nock point down? This assuming of course arrow is not bouncing off the shelf.
I actually weighed my points and the BH's on my reloading scale to make sure there are both 125. Points almost dead on, the Woodsman tipping at about 130ish. But the Woodsman are long heads though. Does anyone make a 125 glue-on that is more low profile, which I prefer actually, kind of like a G5 but is a glue-on.
 

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All good suggestions but they will never work.
Send them to me to reduce this year's frustration.

On second thought...

If you don't have lighted nocks and 'need' to see what your arrow is doing to adjust your nock point and you don't have a repeatable form to papertune (first viable option), you can replicate this somewhat with some auto reflective tape. Wrap a 1/2" strip on your arrow just above your fletching but not on your arrow nock. Shoot an arrow or two (SAFELY) at dusk or dark with a friend standing behind you, but not directly behind you holding a flashlight. He/she will be able to see if your arrow is doing wonky things in flight.
Use a friend you trust, or you may not be friends very much longer...
 

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Question on nock point height, if hitting low, would'nt you adjust nock point down? This assuming of course arrow is not bouncing off the shelf.
I actually weighed my points and the BH's on my reloading scale to make sure there are both 125. Points almost dead on, the Woodsman tipping at about 130ish. But the Woodsman are long heads though. Does anyone make a 125 glue-on that is more low profile, which I prefer actually, kind of like a G5 but is a glue-on.
Yes, a high nock point will cause a bare shaft, or your broadhead to hit low. You would want to lower your nock point to correct.

You will likely have the same issue with any broadhead you choose and you will get better penetration with the 3:1 profile of the woodsman than you will a G5. They are good broadheads you just need to fix the issue. Here is a blood trail from a deer I shot last year with a Woodsman if this helps. https://saddlehunter.com/community/index.php?threads/vented-bhs-noise.39265/post-540949
 

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3/8 is not that high but every bow is different. I like Tom’s question on bow cant. If you cant nock high is not nock high reading. What hand are you? Split or three under? The broadhead may be revealing a small tuning issue not visible with field points. Slow mo video directly behind your shot with an iPhone. Watch frame by frame.
 

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Shoot three under.
I have been shooting three under almost the entire time I’ve been a trad archer. Two possible suggestions. You nock height might actually be low and hitting shelf. 3/8 is a good nock height I have typically seen on my friends that shoot split. Three under generally and I mean generally runs higher nock heights. I usually run 1/2 inch to 5/8 depending on bow. See how it hits with bow vertical, no cant. If you can’t do that shift your clock of how the arrow is hitting to your cant. If the same low impact with vertical bow try raising to 1/2” nock height and reshooting. And hey I’ve done wood arrows for years before just getting carbon this last season. Bad wood arrows happen and I’ve had one or two be bad in a single batch. No matter how much I straightened them. Arrows can just be wonky. Shoot more than one before you do anything. If you have one low in a group or five or six. Or shoot many groupings and the same arrow keeps going low, Make it a stumper
 
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I'm curious as well. Wood arrows can be incredible, however, they can be frustrating. Orientation of the nock to the grain is important, as well as even broadhead and nock glueing. Not as easy as it looks sometimes. I love wood arrows....nothing is as quiet as a solid arrow....not hollow. Lots of work though.
 
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