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New kestrel (kite Mesh) listed on their web site

DaveT1963 said:
It does but you have to feed it through
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I think it’s worth stepping through the waist belt, bc that buckle is noisy when not connected with the male side of the belt through it. Just open it up big & hop in. Leg buckles don’t have to stay connected..........
 
Yep that was going to be part of my review..... I believe they totally missed it IMHO with that buckle and the leg buckles. I would have rather just had a single metal buckle you have to pull slack out of instead of that metal on metal sliding buckle. The leg buckle "quick connect" feature is also a major noise maker - and if we all just step through the waist and leg belts (which is what i believe most will wind up doing) it could have been far quieter with single metal buckles you pull the slack through. If you wear it from truck and have it all tightened up before you head to tree NP.... but if you put it in a pack and put it on at base of tree (or have to remove it to layer at tree) you have 3 metal rattles on it..... not good and a simple fix. Not show stoppers but could be a problem for saddle & bow hunters who for the most part are pretty noise conscious. there is a reason why stealth tape is so successful :)
 
DaveT1963 said:
Yep that was going to be part of my review..... I believe they totally missed it IMHO with that buckle and the leg buckles. I would have rather just had a single metal buckle you have to pull slack out of instead of that metal on metal sliding buckle. The leg buckle "quick connect" feature is also a major noise maker - and if we all just step through the waist and leg belts (which is what i believe most will wind up doing) it could have been far quieter with single metal buckles you pull the slack through. If you wear it from truck and have it all tightened up before you head to tree NP.... but if you put it in a pack and put it on at base of tree (or have to remove it to layer at tree) you have 3 metal rattles on it..... not good and a simple fix. Not show stoppers but could be a problem for saddle & bow hunters who for the most part are pretty noise conscious. there is a reason why stealth tape is so successful :)
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You say all the time with your Hawk sticks it's just a matter of being careful and learning your gear rather than bubble wrapping or stealth stripping everything. So you surmise the buckles on the Kite are insurmountably loud without having it in hand? My rock harness has a similar buckle, I learned how to use it, how to keep it quiet, and I'm a dang ninja with it.
 
elk yinzer said:
You say all the time with your Hawk sticks it's just a matter of being careful and learning your gear rather than bubble wrapping or stealth stripping everything. So you surmise the buckles on the Kite are insurmountably loud without having it in hand? My rock harness has a similar buckle, I learned how to use it, how to keep it quiet, and I'm a dang ninja with it.
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I’m pretty sure he said he has his already.
 
Wirrex said:
I’m pretty sure he said he has his already.
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Touche. I get that is his opinion. I was excited for the kind of buckles I wanted to see on a saddle and everyone is full out crapping on them @putt4doe style. Just another example of when you get a bunch of people together that are uber serious and picky about their gear, there is no way off the shelf stock gear can please everyone. Can't wait til mine arrives.
 
elk yinzer said:
Touche. I get that is his opinion. I was excited for the kind of buckles I wanted to see on a saddle and everyone is full out crapping on them @putt4doe style. Just another example of when you get a bunch of people together that are uber serious and picky about their gear, there is no way off the shelf stock gear can please everyone. Can't wait til mine arrives.
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Yeah totally different strokes for different folks here. I really dislike stepping through the waist belt and leg straps. I’m a size 14 boot and usually wear rubber boots and have struggled many times to fish my feet through my evolution straps both at the truck and at the tree. On my kestrel I did no mods at all and could be extremely quiet and only banged those buckles a couple of times. It’s all a matter of how careful you do or don’t want to be when putting on your gear.


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elk yinzer said:
Touche. I get that is his opinion. I was excited for the kind of buckles I wanted to see on a saddle and everyone is full out crapping on them @putt4doe style. Just another example of when you get a bunch of people together that are uber serious and picky about their gear, there is no way off the shelf stock gear can please everyone. Can't wait til mine arrives.
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I honestly think I would prefer those buckles as that’s what I have on my rch. I generally wear it from the truck . I went with the mantis anyway. Variety is the spice of life.
 
denots said:
Shorts should be standard hunting apparel for the South for 99% of the winter.

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Shorts is what I’ll have on in three weeks. I would like to see someone try to wear scentlock in S Florida in Aug. shorts and an tree umbrella cause it’s gona rain at some point in the afternoon. Before that it’s shade.
Talked to my wife last night and she said a present had arrived. Have to think it’s my Kite. Told her to make room more present’s on their way.

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Wow. First of all I have the Kite in hand. Second of all I haven't even done the review and folks are already lining up on '"sides". Third, my sticks don't have metal on metal contact like the saddle does. I was merely going to show both saddles, what I like and don't like so those who haven't taken the plunge could make up their own mind which route they would want to go.

I'll skip the review since everyone is an individual and can't be pleased.
 
DaveT1963 said:
Wow. First of all I have the Kite in hand. Second of all I haven't even done the review and folks are already lining up on '"sides". Third, my sticks don't have metal on metal contact like the saddle does. I was merely going to show both saddles, what I like and don't like so those who haven't taken the plunge could make up their own mind which route they would want to go.

I'll skip the review since everyone is an individual and can't be pleased.
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I ordered a mantis. I skipped the kite so I am very interested in you opinion and a review. Most of us have no sides - just different opinions which is aok IMO.

Dave don’t take differences of opinion personally. I expect when we differ we are not personally attacking each other Your opinion is valued on this site.

Personally I would love it if Boswell would do a video review of a kite. Just because the more opinions I listen to the easier it is to understand what works best for me

I do not want a kite and a mantis but if the kite really rocks I want one
I ordered a mantis and do not have a video camera.


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DaveT1963 said:
I just made a quick comparison video between the Kestrel and Kite and it's uploading to my YouTube for those that want to see both side by side.
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Dave what name do you go under on YouTube? I would like to see your video.
 
Awesome. Once YouTube posts it, I’ll be watching that sucker!



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DaveT1963 said:
Wow. First of all I have the Kite in hand. Second of all I haven't even done the review and folks are already lining up on '"sides". Third, my sticks don't have metal on metal contact like the saddle does. I was merely going to show both saddles, what I like and don't like so those who haven't taken the plunge could make up their own mind which route they would want to go.

I'll skip the review since everyone is an individual and can't be pleased.
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Man don't skip the review. Besides all of us, I would think and hope that the tethrd team and the Aero Hunter team, would want to hear your comparisons. I know if I was putting a product out I'd want to hear both good and bad reviews. Like you said you can't make everybody happy but that's not really the point. To make everybody happy you'd have to talk out of both sides of your mouth and that's not what we're looking for. Yes there is always going to be somebody who just sides completely one way, but those guys are usually pretty easy to spot and disregard there "opinions". Looking forward to hearing your reviews on both products. And would definitely enjoy a side-by-side comparison of the Mantis and the kite.

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