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The red squirrel climbing aider
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lol. you guys...
DanielB89
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Just felt that a video could help the guys who(myself) have some season left and could add to the quality of their hunts this year. I doubt it would take more than couple minutes to make the video.
I understand that a video would help, that is why I will make it after the season. I have a lot of personal stuff going on and this takes a back seat. I was really sick for 3 weeks including during my vacation when I was supposed to be hunting. I have been working 10-12 hour days every day for the past month and this weekend was the first weekend I got off in a couple weeks.
In Red's defense (since I think I was first to ask for a video?) - it really is not all that hard to figure out if we re-read his instructions. You basically are using a rope tether and attaching a foot loop (using a ropeman 1) that will come to rest a little above knee level to waist level. Then you attach a jim stepp at chest/neck level. Step into the foot aider, then with other leg step up to the jim stepp. Attaching a lineman's belt will greatly facilitate this. Then repeat this process until you get to your hunting height. to get down from tree repel or reverse the process.
I am sure Red will get a round to it but he's a relatively new daddy and has a day job
I am sure Red will get a round to it but he's a relatively new daddy and has a day job
Sorry, I don't.
DanielB89
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Red,
I see that my post may have came off wrong. I apologize for that. I know how life is. In fact, I didn't even have enough time to fully get used to my steps or saddle before actually trying it out this past weekend. lol.
I think the aider that comes with the steps is way less than desirable. I am thinking this one will be the ticket.
I'm assuming that this aider is doubling up as your rope you tie off with as well? If not, that is my plan.
Sorry for my bad keyboarding and lack of patience.
Daniel
I see that my post may have came off wrong. I apologize for that. I know how life is. In fact, I didn't even have enough time to fully get used to my steps or saddle before actually trying it out this past weekend. lol.
I think the aider that comes with the steps is way less than desirable. I am thinking this one will be the ticket.
I'm assuming that this aider is doubling up as your rope you tie off with as well? If not, that is my plan.
Sorry for my bad keyboarding and lack of patience.
Daniel
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I tried this yesterday when I got home.... Here is my take on this. I'm 5'8" around 180lbs..... Tested in regular hunting clothing with no big coat or jacket.In Red's defense (since I think I was first to ask for a video?) - it really is not all that hard to figure out if we re-read his instructions. You basically are using a rope tether and attaching a foot loop (using a ropeman 1) that will come to rest a little above knee level to waist level. Then you attach a jim stepp at chest/neck level. Step into the foot aider, then with other leg step up to the jim stepp. Attaching a lineman's belt will greatly facilitate this. Then repeat this process until you get to your hunting height. to get down from tree repel or reverse the process.
I am sure Red will get a round to it but he's a relatively new daddy and has a day job
I placed the step at chest level with the tether as high as I could reach. I placed my foot in stirrup and pulled my leg up as high as I could without pulling a hamstring
Crapped the rope and stepped up to the Jim Stepp. I did not have a linemens belt on during this as I was only going 5ftMy take on this is 1) with the step only around 5ft or so pulling yourself up with just the rope was difficult and I had to raise my foot high just to step on the Jim Stepp with NO bulky clothes. 2) thinking I need to lower the first step which to me would really defeat the purpose of this climbing method. That would only get me 4 1/2 ft at best per step.
I have used the Wild Edge Aider with success and find it alot easier cause I have a hand hold when stepping up. I get 30ft with 7 steps where I would get somewhere around 25-27 with the above method and 6 steps.
I may be doing something wrong but until I see video I'm not sure. Just my take on this
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I'm confused. The top Stepp is your hand hold.I tried this yesterday when I got home.... Here is my take on this. I'm 5'8" around 180lbs..... Tested in regular hunting clothing with no big coat or jacket.
I placed the step at chest level with the tether as high as I could reach. I placed my foot in stirrup and pulled my leg up as high as I could without pulling a hamstring
My take on this is 1) with the step only around 5ft or so pulling yourself up with just the rope was difficult and I had to raise my foot high just to step on the Jim Stepp with NO bulky clothes. 2) thinking I need to lower the first step which to me would really defeat the purpose of this climbing method. That would only get me 4 1/2 ft at best per step.
I have used the Wild Edge Aider with success and find it alot easier cause I have a hand hold when stepping up. I get 30ft with 7 steps where I would get somewhere around 25-27 with the above method and 6 steps.
I may be doing something wrong but until I see video I'm not sure. Just my take on this
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I tried this yesterday when I got home.... Here is my take on this. I'm 5'8" around 180lbs..... Tested in regular hunting clothing with no big coat or jacket.
I placed the step at chest level with the tether as high as I could reach. I placed my foot in stirrup and pulled my leg up as high as I could without pulling a hamstring
My take on this is 1) with the step only around 5ft or so pulling yourself up with just the rope was difficult and I had to raise my foot high just to step on the Jim Stepp with NO bulky clothes. 2) thinking I need to lower the first step which to me would really defeat the purpose of this climbing method. That would only get me 4 1/2 ft at best per step.
I have used the Wild Edge Aider with success and find it alot easier cause I have a hand hold when stepping up. I get 30ft with 7 steps where I would get somewhere around 25-27 with the above method and 6 steps.
I may be doing something wrong but until I see video I'm not sure. Just my take on this
Red can correct me if I am wrong but, his method isn't supposed to get you higher with each step than the Wildedge aider. You basically use it just like the Wildedge aider except the aider is wrapped around the tree instead of connected to the top step. Red doesn't like connecting the aider to the step in case the step slips.
Thank you DaveIn Red's defense (since I think I was first to ask for a video?) - it really is not all that hard to figure out if we re-read his instructions. You basically are using a rope tether and attaching a foot loop (using a ropeman 1) that will come to rest a little above knee level to waist level. Then you attach a jim stepp at chest/neck level. Step into the foot aider, then with other leg step up to the jim stepp. Attaching a lineman's belt will greatly facilitate this. Then repeat this process until you get to your hunting height. to get down from tree repel or reverse the process.
I am sure Red will get a round to it but he's a relatively new daddy and has a day job
You are my knight in shining armour
. Even if we don't use the same platform I still like you. There is room for both platforms in our world!
No worries! Sorry for the delayed response again, worked til midnight last night and back at it this morning.
I am not using the aider as my tether, but I could. I just have it set up as a system now and I keep all the parts together at all times so I'm always ready to go. Same thing with my saddle, I always have my lineman's belt and tether in a dump pouch on it so that it is ready to go and I can't forget anything.
You're basically the same size as me. I put the stepp somewhere around my belly button or slightly lower otherwise I can't reach it all the time. I use the rope from the aider to pull up and the lineman's belt is really helpful also.I tried this yesterday when I got home.... Here is my take on this. I'm 5'8" around 180lbs..... Tested in regular hunting clothing with no big coat or jacket.
I placed the step at chest level with the tether as high as I could reach. I placed my foot in stirrup and pulled my leg up as high as I could without pulling a hamstring
My take on this is 1) with the step only around 5ft or so pulling yourself up with just the rope was difficult and I had to raise my foot high just to step on the Jim Stepp with NO bulky clothes. 2) thinking I need to lower the first step which to me would really defeat the purpose of this climbing method. That would only get me 4 1/2 ft at best per step.
I have used the Wild Edge Aider with success and find it alot easier cause I have a hand hold when stepping up. I get 30ft with 7 steps where I would get somewhere around 25-27 with the above method and 6 steps.
I may be doing something wrong but until I see video I'm not sure. Just my take on this
25-27 with 6 stepps at 4.5 foot per stepp sounds like the same as 30 foot with 7 stepps to me.. Not sure what I'm missing?
Yes. And my aider is much easier to adjust the length.
Thank you Dave
You are my knight in shining armour
you can lead a horse to water........ The only armor I have is some old weather beaten skin and the shine is from where my hair migrated from.....
LOL.. some tough old skin I'm sure!you can lead a horse to water........ The only armor I have is some old weather beaten skin and the shine is from where my hair migrated from.....
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Thank you Dave
You are my knight in shining armour
And crocs...
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That's one of the reasons I have avoided the annual pig feast - afraid it would turn into a silly croc swap or croc admiration event - the thought that one might encounter just one glimpse of them huddled around the fire, all dressed up in their tidy little bath robes and pink crocs, makes one seriously want to take up drinking.... a lot.
................... I ain't got time for all that .
And while I might suffer from what someone so kindly labeled as crocaphobia.... at least I don't suffer from ballackadosis
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I haven't tried the wild edge one yet. Why would the WE aider get you higher in the tree? It my mind the aiders are equivalent as far as getting to the same final height with the same stick spacing. It's a personal preference on the spacing. What I like about Red's ascender method after only watching the wild edge videos:
1.) Ascender is far easier to adjust. You can set your foot at a comfortable height and easily adjust to max move. Since it is a rope ascender you can inch yourself up the rope as needed.
2.) Less chance I can drop it since it is usually wrapped around the tree (unless I need to go around branches. No need to unclip and reclip.
3.) Safety. After playing with Stepps and aiders for a while, I'm still not a fan of clipping to them.
If we are simply comparing climbing methods as presented, I agree, the wild edge method gets you higher but that is simply because the stepps are placed over head vs. chest high. There is no reason why you can use a rope ascender to do the same. Or am I missing something completely with the wild edge method?
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