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Who Did Not Snort the Fairy Dust? And Why?

BuffaloBill said:
Only way to increase my horsepower is go up in draw weight and/or heavier arrows.
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Only way to increase your "horsepower" is heavier limbs, a more efficient cam/limbs (not really feasible at this point), or a longer draw stroke. Energy comes from the limbs. Arrow is just a vessel.

Theoretically, the ideal arrow weight if we're talking about delivering the maximum amount of energy that the bow creates would lie at the highest point of a bell curve. Not too heavy, not too light. Just enough mass to absorb as much energy as possible, and no more.

Easton, who has published a lot of info on all things archery over the years, recommends 35ft/lbs of energy for ethically harvesting whitetails. Most guys setups generate and deliver more than that.
 
OspreyZB said:
Because I'm a contrarian. If everyone and there uncle is doing something, you can bet I ain't doing that thing. Always been that way. I was shooting 550+ grains before it was trendy. Now everyone's shooting heavy arrows, so I built lighter ones .
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I won't lie, I'm that way too.

"Oh, I need a 600 grain arrow and a saddle to kill deer? Sweet. Anyways, here's a pic of the doe I killed with a 300 grain arrow and a 100 grain rage. Shot her while I was sitting at the base of that tree in the background."

As hyped as public land has gotten, I'm one step away from selling it all to buy a tractor and a lease. ;)
 
Nutterbuster said:
As hyped as public land has gotten, I'm one step away from selling it all to buy a tractor and a lease. ;)
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I always wanted to shoot them out the back window of my cabin in the woods. Never got the cabin. I'll just have to make do with climbing a public tree for now.
 
OspreyZB said:
Because I'm a contrarian. If everyone and there uncle is doing something, you can bet I ain't doing that thing. Always been that way. I was shooting 550+ grains before it was trendy. Now everyone's shooting heavy arrows, so I built lighter ones .
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You could say the same thing about saddles the last 2-3 years. Going back to a ladder stand?
 
Nutterbuster said:
Only way to increase your "horsepower" is heavier limbs, a more efficient cam/limbs (not really feasible at this point), or a longer draw stroke. Energy comes from the limbs. Arrow is just a vessel.

Theoretically, the ideal arrow weight if we're talking about delivering the maximum amount of energy that the bow creates would lie at the highest point of a bell curve. Not too heavy, not too light. Just enough mass to absorb as much energy as possible, and no more.

Easton, who has published a lot of info on all things archery over the years, recommends 35ft/lbs of energy for ethically harvesting whitetails. Most guys setups generate and deliver more than that.
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What in the cornbread hell is a ft/lb? Haha
 
Personally I like listening to new information but I always do my own work as well. When I heard about the heavy arrows I started to question my set up which was around 412 grains. Bering an engineering student I sat down and crunched the numbers. I created a bell curve relating arrow weight and momentum for my exact dimensions. While it is not perfect as I didn't take into account wind resistance, I found my ideal arrow mass to be 550 +/-10 grains. I also found that weight should put my arrows around the 260-270 fps range which should give a relatively good arc to the arrows that didn't drop off horribly. So for the heck of it I built the cheapest arrow I could (300 spine GameGetters) in that weight range. Here are the things I noticed. 1 my bow was noticeably quieter. 2 I had a much more consistent arrow arc (with the light arrows my pin spacing made no sense). 3 the arrows had noticeably better penetration even compared to the small diameter shafts. I am currently working on building some Axis for hunting this year at that weight as well. One perk of the GameGetters is that the 300 spine are 23's so they're now my indoor arrows.
 
bj139 said:
I don't think saddle hunting has a dominant share of the market so saddles are still contrarian.
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Not what the social media and YouTube hunters would make you think. Now everyone has to have a Ranch Fairy/Ethics/FOC build video.
 
BuffaloBill said:
Not what the social media and YouTube hunters would make you think. Now everyone has to have a Ranch Fairy/Ethics/FOC build video.
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Among us it seems as natural as falling off a log. I see more treestand advertisements on the internet and Youtube and over on Facebook there are tons of comments about this new fangled saddle hunting thing. Saddles and treeclimbing are commonplace in the arborist world but not much anywhere else. Maybe I have been drinking too much Koolaid. :D
 
Noonespecial said:
Here is the exact reason you SHOULD “snort the fairy dust”.

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That was not a good angle. Not sure what arrow/broadhead he was using, or if a different one would have changed that outcome. The ribs were basically all stacked, and it glanced off.

Might could have got a better shot opportunity if the deer wasn't friggin looking at him the whole time.
 
I took a similar hard quartering away shot on a buck last year, fairy dust still fresh and lining my nostrils, got a full pass through and about 10" of penetration into the ground on the other side of him. He jumped, ran a few yards, turned around to see what bit him. Walked another ten yards and piled up. I'll acknowledge that it's highly anecdotal, however I probably would not have had the same results with a blade deployment/deflection failure as seen in the above video.

In ideal conditions mechanicals and twizzler arrows have killed more deer than cwd. I say shoot what works for you. What works for me is a setup that will continue to perform in less than ideal conditions.
 
I think that they're sponsored by G5. I know Tbone has a Dead Meat commercial. Kind of limits their options on broadheads.
 
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