Nothing like having your beta testers pay full price and working it out from there amirite.
This isn't LWCG
It's a company that had 1 of their 2 launch products fail to meet specs and would break at height, forcing a redesign. And they left the affected platforms in the field, refusing to replace until they break.This isn't LWCG
I mean not really its the same material granted not the same applications but its plausable to compare the two being they are the same material.
ARH-WooooooooooooooooooooooooPlease keep it civil guys . . .there's not even a full moon tonight . . .
In what way?
The sticks cite grade 9 which i think is 3/2.5. And the general trend that titanium bikes are stronger for the weight than AL and AL bikes tend to be stiffer I would expect to apply to sticks. Or just consider that gr9 ti is about 3x stronger than 6061t6 max, but only 50-60% stiffer. If you cut weight with Ti you get bendier.While a bike frame does see a lot lateral bending, we don't know the alloys being used. Bike frames used to largely be 3/2.5. Maybe that's changed these days but regardless, we don't know what the sticks are made out of.
Personally I wouldn't be worried about a catostrophic failure of the stick. Bent maybe, but Ti is a stong material and I doubt they're going to push their design so close to the edge that it's ready to collapse at any moment.
I apologize. Just letting words get the better of me.
I’ll recuse myself from the thread from here on out and just leave it with I hope everyone, including you, eventually gets to enjoy what looks to be one the more forward thinking set of climbing sticks coming to market and it meets or exceeds the expectations placed upon it. Have a good night.
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No one's jumping the gun. They're looking over an upcoming lightweight product (from a vendor with a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height) and evaluating its attractiveness to them and areas to evaluate for potential weakness.Facebook mentality is really creeping its way onto this site. Sometimes it just feels like guys are looking for something to "pounce on". But instead of saying "I'm offended", it's "that might be unsafe".
I appreciate the concern, and a healthy suspicion of new products is totally warranted, but it does seem like people are jumping the gun. The damn sticks don't even exist yet, and its been nothing but how the roll pin will shear, you can't trust epoxy, I can't believe they're using titanium, etc.
Come on guys, at least wait until ANYONE has laid hands on these things.
No one's jumping the gun. They're looking over an upcoming lightweight product (from a vendor with a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height) and evaluating its attractiveness to them and areas to evaluate for potential weakness.
No one's shouting doom and gloom this won't work. The only one "pouncing on" anything is you throwing shade at a different vendor (one that I don't know of anything breaking at height, but I admit I haven't paid much attention)
I'm with you. Just a lot of speculation. Im not a tethrd fan or fan boy, but to their credit they've sold a heck of a lot of product in the past year and I've heard **** about failures, or even issues.
At what point does "a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height" become ancient history?
I really don't want to keep bringing this up...but they've released 1 mechanical product (and now a second size) to support human weight, and that one product had issues. And I'll admit it also left a bad taste to see tethrd prostaff badmouthing competitor platforms, suggesting they were underdeveloped and undertested...while leaving known-bad product on the market.I'm with you. Just a lot of speculation. Im not a tethrd fan or fan boy, but to their credit they've sold a heck of a lot of product in the past year and I've heard **** about failures, or even issues.
At what point does "a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height" become ancient history?