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Tethrd One Sticks ..... take my money already

d_rek said:
Aluminum can both be bought at the grocery store on a roll for culinary use or it can be extruded and milled to make climbing sticks. Is it plausible to compare the two being that they're the same material?
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Rage broadheads had a titanium ferrule. Maybe we should compare climbing sticks to them.
 
MIbowhunter49 said:
This isn't LWCG
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It's a company that had 1 of their 2 launch products fail to meet specs and would break at height, forcing a redesign. And they left the affected platforms in the field, refusing to replace until they break.
 
Chandler96 said:
I mean not really its the same material granted not the same applications but its plausable to compare the two being they are the same material.
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While a bike frame does see a lot lateral bending, we don't know the alloys being used. Bike frames used to largely be 3/2.5. Maybe that's changed these days but regardless, we don't know what the sticks are made out of.

Personally I wouldn't be worried about a catostrophic failure of the stick. Bent maybe, but Ti is a stong material and I doubt they're going to push their design so close to the edge that it's ready to collapse at any moment.
 
enkriss said:
In what way?
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I apologize. Just letting words get the better of me.

I’ll recuse myself from the thread from here on out and just leave it with I hope everyone, including you, eventually gets to enjoy what looks to be one the more forward thinking set of climbing sticks coming to market and it meets or exceeds the expectations placed upon it. Have a good night.


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brydan said:
While a bike frame does see a lot lateral bending, we don't know the alloys being used. Bike frames used to largely be 3/2.5. Maybe that's changed these days but regardless, we don't know what the sticks are made out of.

Personally I wouldn't be worried about a catostrophic failure of the stick. Bent maybe, but Ti is a stong material and I doubt they're going to push their design so close to the edge that it's ready to collapse at any moment.
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The sticks cite grade 9 which i think is 3/2.5. And the general trend that titanium bikes are stronger for the weight than AL and AL bikes tend to be stiffer I would expect to apply to sticks. Or just consider that gr9 ti is about 3x stronger than 6061t6 max, but only 50-60% stiffer. If you cut weight with Ti you get bendier.
 
d_rek said:
I apologize. Just letting words get the better of me.

I’ll recuse myself from the thread from here on out and just leave it with I hope everyone, including you, eventually gets to enjoy what looks to be one the more forward thinking set of climbing sticks coming to market and it meets or exceeds the expectations placed upon it. Have a good night.


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I hope this isn't from my bit of fun with the titanium foil; you liked it so I'm supposing I just missed something.

And..frankly, I agree with your point. In order to diligently analyze the unreleased stick, the details of the build are essential. Weldabeast teases this out with a bit more earnestness.

But I understand the other side of the chatter as well. I got beat up a bit the other day over a comment relating to a product I haven't had the opportunity to use. I don't think I was wrong necessarily, because my comment was based on a product I have experience with, but that's neither here nor there.....why?

Because none of us, to my knowledge, have had the chance to purchase and use the "ONE Stick." And all this speculation, helpful and harmful, is a result of this tease release.

Yes, bikes use titanium tubes, some dent, often that doesn't matter to the integrity of the bike, sometimes it does. Titanium tubes are also used in motor sports frames....as well as wheelchairs (how horribly ironic if these do go south).

We could actually understand quite a bit about the tube itself if we'd knew the specs....but we don't, so, let's carry on for smiles and giggles.

I pray anything that comes to market is safe for use, cause that's where I get my stuff to.
 
Facebook mentality is really creeping its way onto this site. Sometimes it just feels like guys are looking for something to "pounce on". But instead of saying "I'm offended", it's "that might be unsafe".

I appreciate the concern, and a healthy suspicion of new products is totally warranted, but it does seem like people are jumping the gun. The damn sticks don't even exist yet, and its been nothing but how the roll pin will shear, you can't trust epoxy, I can't believe they're using titanium, etc.

Come on guys, at least wait until ANYONE has laid hands on these things.
 
MIbowhunter49 said:
Facebook mentality is really creeping its way onto this site. Sometimes it just feels like guys are looking for something to "pounce on". But instead of saying "I'm offended", it's "that might be unsafe".

I appreciate the concern, and a healthy suspicion of new products is totally warranted, but it does seem like people are jumping the gun. The damn sticks don't even exist yet, and its been nothing but how the roll pin will shear, you can't trust epoxy, I can't believe they're using titanium, etc.

Come on guys, at least wait until ANYONE has laid hands on these things.
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No one's jumping the gun. They're looking over an upcoming lightweight product (from a vendor with a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height) and evaluating its attractiveness to them and areas to evaluate for potential weakness.

No one's shouting doom and gloom this won't work. The only one "pouncing on" anything is you throwing shade at a different vendor (one that I don't know of anything breaking at height, but I admit I haven't paid much attention)
 
I think we can all still be friends with different ideas and opinions! like someone said above we are all used to being on Facebook where everyone is offended lol.
 
mattsteg said:
No one's jumping the gun. They're looking over an upcoming lightweight product (from a vendor with a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height) and evaluating its attractiveness to them and areas to evaluate for potential weakness.

No one's shouting doom and gloom this won't work. The only one "pouncing on" anything is you throwing shade at a different vendor (one that I don't know of anything breaking at height, but I admit I haven't paid much attention)
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I'm with you. Just a lot of speculation. Im not a tethrd fan or fan boy, but to their credit they've sold a heck of a lot of product in the past year and I've heard **** about failures, or even issues.

At what point does "a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height" become ancient history?
 
MIbowhunter49 said:
I'm with you. Just a lot of speculation. Im not a tethrd fan or fan boy, but to their credit they've sold a heck of a lot of product in the past year and I've heard **** about failures, or even issues.

At what point does "a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height" become ancient history?
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Relates well to this whole thread....
 
MIbowhunter49 said:
I'm with you. Just a lot of speculation. Im not a tethrd fan or fan boy, but to their credit they've sold a heck of a lot of product in the past year and I've heard **** about failures, or even issues.

At what point does "a history of releasing stuff you stand on that's so light/underdesigned that it fails at height" become ancient history?
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I really don't want to keep bringing this up...but they've released 1 mechanical product (and now a second size) to support human weight, and that one product had issues. And I'll admit it also left a bad taste to see tethrd prostaff badmouthing competitor platforms, suggesting they were underdeveloped and undertested...while leaving known-bad product on the market.

I guess it'd become "ancient history" somewhere after tethrd manages a successful release of a non-sewn product other than a simple scale up.

Also as others have mentioned there's an industry-wide trend of new products with unforeseen issues - why not try and foresee them as well as discuss new aspects of construction (and build confidence in that manner).
 
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