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Why don't yall 2TC?
- Thread starter Red Beard
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Ok so using @always89y method of swing the rope up is great but you loose so much height as you pull slack out. Methods that @bj139 and @cedar paul use are great too but I don’t want to lug sections of polls in the woods and I found them slow. Maybe this will be a blend. This is not a novel concept, but I’m applying it with a small telescoping mono pod I found in the woods this year. I can set my regular length tether 9 ft from the bottom consistently and I have yet to see how high I can set my tether when using my long rappel rope.
I can constantly get the rappel rope as the foot tether flipped up around 12-15 foot before it falls down. Using the pull and considering I’m 6’2” and the pole is 5’ and my arm is around 8ft pointing up I should be able to set the foot tether at around 11-13ft (TBD)
This thing is light weight and packs down to fit in a pack. It has a loop that can hang from the side of the saddle during the climb. I’m going to try to make a video showing it in use soon. No verdict yet.
This may gain me some height on top tether movement as well. If I could get an easy 12ft start and then two 6ft moves I would call it a success
I can constantly get the rappel rope as the foot tether flipped up around 12-15 foot before it falls down. Using the pull and considering I’m 6’2” and the pole is 5’ and my arm is around 8ft pointing up I should be able to set the foot tether at around 11-13ft (TBD)
This thing is light weight and packs down to fit in a pack. It has a loop that can hang from the side of the saddle during the climb. I’m going to try to make a video showing it in use soon. No verdict yet.
This may gain me some height on top tether movement as well. If I could get an easy 12ft start and then two 6ft moves I would call it a success
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Well, the postman just dropped off my latest shipment from Eastern Woods Outdoors (Thanks Dano!) and I just had to put this together and try it out. After much thought I decided to go with 9mm Canyon C-IV rope. I bought 12 feet for the top tether. I also picked up some 7mm Sterling Accessory Cord for the friction hitch.
I tied a loop with a figure 8 knot giving me about a foot of loop on the top tether and I used a Distel Hitch out of 7mm cord for the friction hitch. I do plan to replace the wire gate carabiner with a locking carabiner.
For the foot tether I used the Amsteel whoopie loop I made a few weeks ago. I really like that Amsteel foot loop.
I couldn't resist going out and giving it a quick try. I really like how the stiffness of the C-IV makes it easy to advance up the tree. This configuration works really well. Aside from replacing the carabiner with a locking gate model, I might consider acquiring a Kong Duck to use on this 9mm rope. So far so good and this seems to be a very nice, neat little package. I like it!
Pictured below is the 2TC kit with Canyon C-IV, 7 Pioneers steps on an OCB strap and the Recon Sling.
I tied a loop with a figure 8 knot giving me about a foot of loop on the top tether and I used a Distel Hitch out of 7mm cord for the friction hitch. I do plan to replace the wire gate carabiner with a locking carabiner.
For the foot tether I used the Amsteel whoopie loop I made a few weeks ago. I really like that Amsteel foot loop.
I couldn't resist going out and giving it a quick try. I really like how the stiffness of the C-IV makes it easy to advance up the tree. This configuration works really well. Aside from replacing the carabiner with a locking gate model, I might consider acquiring a Kong Duck to use on this 9mm rope. So far so good and this seems to be a very nice, neat little package. I like it!
Pictured below is the 2TC kit with Canyon C-IV, 7 Pioneers steps on an OCB strap and the Recon Sling.
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You found my mono pod! I've looked everywhere for that thing!!
I timed a quick practice climb. It took 0:35 seconds to hook up and start climbing, 7 moves to get up to about 11 feet off the ground in 2:43 seconds for 23 seconds per move. The limb opposite of my arm in the photo is 16 feet off the ground (measured) and I am 6 feet tall for scale. So going off these numbers, I should be able to get to around 20+ feet on a limbless tree in about 6 minutes at this rate. It is 70 degrees here currently and I did not break a sweat. I'm really liking this.
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Well, the turkeys didn't want to play today so I did some good scouting for the fall and got in another 2TC climb this morning after the hunt. I used the Canyon C-IV tether and the Amsteel foot loop. It took 2 minutes to hook up and start climbing, 5:03 minutes to get to height (not sure but looked acceptable) and 11 minutes start to finish up and down. I did 11 moves (I was stretching a bit today) and averaged :28 seconds per move. I was expecting to have a hard time of it due to the fact that I had stomped all over creation, up and down hills and through swamps looking for a gobbler and I was tired. The tree also had some aggressive bark. I need some way to gauge how high I am getting up. During season my bow rope will be a good indication.
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Maybe I'm going about turkey hunting all wrong. I start by finding a good-looking tree that may have a turkey in it. I climb up and check it. If there is no turkey, I climb down and go to the next tree and repeat. This turkey hunting is hard!
I have done that from the ground looking up to gauge the height of limbs but my range finder seems to have a +/- factor of about a yard and I seem to remember not trusting what it was saying for ranges under 10 yards, lol. I should get it out sometime today and try it out again.
I saw this one yesterday about a mile in and thought of your practice tree suggestion. Unfortunately, I didn't have my 2TC kit with me. Some people call these trail marker trees.
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Whenever I see trees like this I always think about the 'how'. How did this happen and why? Craziness
Look up Indian marker trees.
I am sure the Indians made trees like this, but I also believe most of these we see today were the result of natural processes since the trees themselves are not old enough to date to that period.
Or idiots like me that get bored while hunting and start weaving them into braids, probably seeing the results of my dad or grandpa from several years ago
I'm toying with the idea of using a Kong Slyde on the top tether instead of a friction knot like a Distel. It would be in spec for 9mm Canyon C-IV. The negatives I have seen are usually with slightly out of spec rope. Pros, cons, etc.?
I'm also considering a Kong Duck.
I'm also considering a Kong Duck.
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I have used the Slyde with C IV when I 2TC. I like the idea that the Slyde might dissipate some energy if I were to fall. I don’t know how realistic and/or effective it would actually be at preventing injury, but it ‘might’ help a little and that’s ok with me. The cons that I see are: you MUST use a rope that is in spec or it could be very dangerous and the potential for noise since it is aluminum. It adjust very easily.
FWIW, I try to keep my moves to about 18” to keep slack to a minimum. I still prefer LWHC over 2TC, but if I had a preset platform, 2TC or MRS would be my preference.
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Good info. Its good to hear that it adjusts easily. I also like the idea that it is an aluminum one piece plate so there are no moving parts to potentially break like in a Kong Duck or Ropeman. I doubt that would happen but simple is usually better...less points of failure. I also agree about the 18 inch moves being best for 2TC. It is safer since less slack and easier since I'm not stretching and fighting against it. I make a few more moves but it turns out to be faster.
I really like MRS, DRT and use it some where I can set presets but few of the trees around here are suitable for it since the first loadbearing limbs are 50 to 60 feet up. We have a vast majority of straight limbless trees to choose from so 2TC seems a natural fit. DRT is usually reserved for those giant trees where that is the only thing that will work on them.