Why don't yall 2TC?

[Hall17]

With 978 posts there must a lot of reasons why people don’t 2TC. 1000 post thread here we come. Can we beat the hickory creek mini thread?

I remember when I first gave 2TC a look and thought yeah ok not for me. But I jumped in with both feet and glad I did. Honestly, didn't think a bunch of us would get on board but here we are

 

[tailgunner]

I realy think this is everyone's impression

 

[tailgunner]

Can't believe a decade of all the crap I carried for no reason.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I remember when I first gave 2TC a look and thought yeah ok not for me. But I jumped in with both feet and glad I did. Honestly, didn't think a bunch of us would get on board but here we are

This is what happened to me, but it was more of a process. I saw it and said "Nah, too minimalist, I can't get that to work", then later I half tried it and failed. I put the thought of it aside for a while. Then tried it again after reading this thread and it worked well enough to see that it could replace sticks for me. At that point I was on board. I've been refining it and practicing ever since.

 

[ketch22]

Thinking about it, a good reason to have your top tether be a rappel setup or at least have one on your saddle, with 2TC if you’re at any sort of “dangerous” height, and your foot loop breaks or somehow falls down the tree, you can at least bail out. For bailout in general was why I started rappelling.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Thinking about it, a good reason to have your top tether be a rappel setup or at least have one on your saddle, with 2TC if you’re at any sort of “dangerous” height, and your foot loop breaks or somehow falls down the tree, you can at least bail out. For bailout in general was why I started rappelling.

When I did my first real climb 2TC I used my rappel setup for the top tether for that very reason. I wanted a way to get down since I was very unsure of the process and didn't want to become a Pinata, lol. Since then, I have gone to the simple 2 tether system out of ease of use. The only thing I don't like about the rappel setup is that fiddly delta link sliding down. I'm going to play around with just a loop and knot soon on the top rappel line and see how that goes.

 

[GeoFish]

With 978 posts there must a lot of reasons why people don’t 2TC. 1000 post thread here we come. Can we beat the hickory creek mini thread?

OK, I will be the cast away.
I tried it and just did not like it.
1. Took to many steps to get to 17 feet. When I raised my saddle tether I dropped about 5", so if I took 15" steps, I lost all but 10".
2. If the tree is wet you will be wet from the waist down. Not a big deal at 70, but at 35 it is.
3. With the weight of the rappel gear. It does not save me any weight.
4. Too tree sensitive. I dont have alot of telephone poles where I hunt.
Buy I am glad I tried it, as a emergency decend plan it is great.

 

[gcr0003]

OK, I will be the cast away.
I tried it and just did not like it.
1. Took to many steps to get to 17 feet. When I raised my saddle tether I dropped about 5", so if I took 15" steps, I lost all but 10".
2. If the tree is wet you will be wet from the waist down. Not a big deal at 70, but at 35 it is.
3. With the weight of the rappel gear. It does not save me any weight.
4. Too tree sensitive. I dont have alot of telephone poles where I hunt.
Buy I am glad I tried it, as a emergency decend plan it is great.

Most acceptable of reasons my good sir.

 

[ketch22]

When I did my first real climb 2TC I used my rappel setup for the top tether for that very reason. I wanted a way to get down since I was very unsure of the process and didn't want to become a Pinata, lol. Since then, I have gone to the simple 2 tether system out of ease of use. The only thing I don't like about the rappel setup is that fiddly delta link sliding down. I'm going to play around with just a loop and knot soon on the top rappel line and see how that goes.

let me know how it goes, I’m curious on it. My delta link doesn’t slide down too bad, but it’s definitely one of the main things I pay attention to

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I did a short climb out back a while ago with my rappel line as my top tether and my Amsteel foot tether. The climb went pretty well as did the rappel. I did not hook up a pull-down line since I left several feet of slack on the stopper before rappelling and thought I could just jiggle the delta link and it would drop. Wrong. Well, I had to get the regular top tether and go back up and get the rappel line down. It was just an aggravation, and I knew better than to try to just work it down without a pull-down line. One thing that struck me during all this was how much quicker and less fiddly the simple 2 tethers are for me to use over the rappel line. Maybe it's just my lack of using the rappel line that is making it slow, but it seemed to take a long time to get it set up on the tree and get the Distel hitch and figure 8 set where I wanted them prior to the climb. I need to practice this more and get a dedicated pull-down line for this set up.

 

[phatkaw]

^^^ That's one of my reasons for using a seperate tether for climbing and hunting off of.
Even when one-sticking.
It's just easier for me that way...

 

[Samcirrus]

I did a short climb out back a while ago with my rappel line as my top tether and my Amsteel foot tether. The climb went pretty well as did the rappel. I did not hook up a pull-down line since I left several feet of slack on the stopper before rappelling and thought I could just jiggle the delta link and it would drop. Wrong. Well, I had to get the regular top tether and go back up and get the rappel line down. It was just an aggravation, and I knew better than to try to just work it down without a pull-down line. One thing that struck me during all this was how much quicker and less fiddly the simple 2 tethers are for me to use over the rappel line. Maybe it's just my lack of using the rappel line that is making it slow, but it seemed to take a long time to get it set up on the tree and get the Distel hitch and figure 8 set where I wanted them prior to the climb. I need to practice this more and get a dedicated pull-down line for this set up.

Yes, it definitely helps and makes the whole process seem faster and stealthily if you have your friction hitch set-up on the right spot of rope before you go hunt. I've even made marks with some tape on my rope for the different positions certain things should be in regardless of tree size.
When you practice, get a notebook/phone/memory and find measurements you can use in order to have perfect consistency.

 

[Samcirrus]

Example: my friction hitch is the span of my gloved hand away from the girth hitch...my foot loop hitch is always just under my knee when I lift my leg 90 degrees,(never higher or its uncomfortable) against the tree....etc
Same thing for bridge length et al....

 

[tailgunner]

This is my best 1 piece quick connect systems yet.the rope cord and knot met all my criteria....wich isn't easy

 

[tailgunner]

I like the knut.it breaks loose smooth to asend. and. Is easy to tie.the ends are buried in the tubular webbing with a paracord tender

 

[tailgunner]

The back side.....its right handed operation

 

[phatkaw]

^^^ Looks good!

 

[tailgunner]

Thanks .I was happy about how it looked.it functions great too.

 

[gcr0003]

This is my best 1 piece quick connect systems yet.the rope cord and knot met all my criteria....wich isn't easyView attachment 64467

So your tether stays on your bridge?

 

[gcr0003]

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