WISCO
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Prayers for his Family.
I stop using those style aider due to having a stick kick out using the buckle less method, now I'm back to cam buckles on sticks and only a two step aider on bottom stick. That scared the s*** out of me. And cannot recommend either methodThe way people attach aiders to their feets is the first scenario that I could thing of that could easily flip u over and have u bound up not allowing u to easily right urself or a blow to the head from a higher branch break and fall or a slip that makes u accidentally headbutt the trunk
I can invert it but even an ole guy like me can get upright, if no ones watching...Takes me a minute to get upright, but no need for an aider or a knife.........This statement baffles me… are you saying a pac seat cannot go inverted when you hang from a tether? Lmao
I deleted my comment due to the sincerity of this post but I agree, and I’ve even went inverted on my bucket a time or twoI can invert it but even an ole guy like me can get upright, if no ones watching...Takes me a minute to get upright, but no need for an aider or a knife.........
I read the post from his wife this morning as well. So sad. I’ve already been thinking about something like this, but this makes me think even harder. If a stick breaks and you’re using a lineman‘s belt you’re going to rip yourself up or possibly go upside down. I love my JX3 Hybrid but my but if I’m in a tree stand, the stand hast to break and my rock climbing harness and tether have to break. There are two things that have to happen instead of one. In my stand, I keep my tether tight. For some reason that makes me feel more comfortable.
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So she specified no heart attack or stroke. Perhaps lack of oxygen from inverted suspension. I just want to know, which saddle and which climbing/descending method. That would help a ton with figuring out potential weaknesses and dangers.She posted this: "we do not know for sure. Autopsy said he had no injuries and no sign of a health crisis like a heart attack or stroke. He just somehow got flipped when lowering himself down. He was not tangled in the rope or anything either. It appears to be a freak accident. My hope by sharing is awareness. If sharing in the 3 groups Dane was in can save one of you from the same thing then it's worth it"
She posted this: "we do not know for sure. Autopsy said he had no injuries and no sign of a health crisis like a heart attack or stroke. He just somehow got flipped when lowering himself down. He was not tangled in the rope or anything either. It appears to be a freak accident. My hope by sharing is awareness. If sharing in the 3 groups Dane was in can save one of you from the same thing then it's worth it"
I show it at events and show a couple of self rescue ideas to get upright however none of that will help if you’re severely hurt from a fall or unconscious. It’s important to practice and plan for worst case but be realistic that some things are beyond our controlDue to this tragedy, has anyone actually gone out and practiced self rescuing from an inverted position? If so, what worked for getting upright? I plan on trying it from both my tether and my climbing rope to see how each changes how easy it is to go inverted, as well as how to get upright again.
Lots of strategies. I always carry a double length sewn sling. This can create a simple chest harness, which then a z-drag and process capture could easily be built to haul yourself upright with 0 use of your legs. being prepared and knowing how to use the least amount of mechanical gear is the most important thing. I always have found gear which has multiple uses is the best to have around.Due to this tragedy, has anyone actually gone out and practiced self rescuing from an inverted position? If so, what worked for getting upright? I plan on trying it from both my tether and my climbing rope to see how each changes how easy it is to go inverted, as well as how to get upright again.
He seemed to be shorter and possibly overweight in photos. Some guys don’t have the physical ability to get themselves back up. Some can’t climb 2TC or one stick because of their physical limits. It’s why companies say you must be fit and able to climb and hunt from elevation. It’s also why practice is important. Perhaps he flagged someone walking past him? Or could get his phone out of a dump pouch pocket but wasn’t able to pull himself back upright. Again all of this is speculation. It’s sad and I hope we will all use this to recognize dangers and take them more seriously. It was brought to my attention that on top of one sticking he was also a fan of JRB’s climbing system. Not sure which he was using when the accident happened but I definitely would like details so that we can all use this to make all of us safer.What I don't understand is that he was able to let another hunter in the area know that he was not ok but he was not able to get himself upright. Just doesn't make sense to me