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Based on several responses, I’m adding another choice:
I make sure I’m on camera.
I’m feeling pretty 1984…
I make sure I’m on camera.
I’m feeling pretty 1984…
If you left cash on your dashboard and someone opened the truck to count it but didn’t take any does that make it ok?Do you consider it stealing if someone uploads the pictures but doesn’t edit or alter them in any way?
Sounds like a great experiment. Can the test be self administered or does it require a proctor?Now yall got me wondering...
I don't take Haidt's Moral Foundation Theory super-seriously, but it'd be curious to see if there was a different score between card readers vs non-readers on that and similar tests that attempt to tease out moral the factors behind morality construction
Sounds like a great experiment. Can the test be self administered or does it require a proctor?
I'm hesitant to call it a great experiment.
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You forgot to tell us how the owner of the camera gave you permission to tamper with his personal property???When cameras first started showing up in the woods I found it creepy that strangers were taking pictures, and that someone might be keeping track of my comings and goings on public land. It felt like some kind of a violation. In time I got accustomed to the whole process and developed an eye for cameras, and for avoiding them. Eventually I started using cameras too. I love seeing bucks and learning about deer movement and behavior. Though as time has gone on I’ve come to question just how much they are actually helping me. For all the intel I gain from them I also feel like they are a distraction, like they are a “tell” giving intel to other hunters, and in many ways polluting the landscape. I have increasingly mixed feeling about my own relationship with trail cameras, particularly on PUBLIC land.
Hearing everyone’s perspective is fascinating.
Today I leaned that I’m creepy and sketchy…
I carry a card reader and i do upload photos from other peoples cameras left on public land, if they are left UNLOCKED. I don’t alter the camera or its contents. Nothing is stolen from the person who put the camera out, nothing is changed. Why wouldn’t I read information that is right there available to me? Why would I ignore valuable information that could help me have greater success? I’m not sure how doing this is some kind of a theft.
Have you ever been to a public park and used the basketball that somebody left on the court? You and your kid shoot some hoops for fun and leave the ball where you found it; this is not stealing. I’m curious how the law views this matter, does an object left on public property become public or does it remain private, if so for how long?
You forgot to tell us how the owner of the camera gave you permission to tamper with his personal property???
Last I checked, I didn’t give anyone permission to look at my trail camera SD cards…just because the trail camera “door” is unlocked doesn’t make it your right or give you the OK to steal someone’s pics or look at them.
Those cameras are private property and what’s on them is not your business or give you the right to open and see what’s on the SD card. The door is closed for a reason.
If they are left there illegally, you aren’t the law nor do you enforce it so call a game warden.
This test has a lot of vagueness and holes in it in my opinion. I’m big on the ask good questions get good answers. I think these questions are no good, so I think most of the answers you’ll get are no good. Most of the questions are unclear what your are voting on the morality of since it has many one person did this, one person responded by doing this, type questions. You could answer to the morality of the first person or the second. Next, most of the questions have very little to do with morality in my mind and more or less a question of whether or not the thing is prudent or not.
I'm hesitant to call it a great experiment. I think Haidt has a good tree he's barking up (we're wrong to think of morality as monolithic instead of composite, roots in individual-preservation, genetic basis, brain uses older systems for new situations, tension between individual interest and group interest as humans became increasingly eusocial, understanding all of this may make us more civil, etc.) I think he's got the wrong values to make his theory universally applicable.
But it'd be curious to see if the outliers in this group (checkers) differed on one measurement from the norm (leavers-alone).
I posted this as "Call the appropriate authority" was not an option.
This. If it ain’t yours don’t mess with it.I feel like this and was always taught, if it’s not mine or don’t have permission from the owner then don’t bother it. I don’t see those wanting to read the cards of someone’s camera on public land any different than parking my truck on public just to come back and find someone was looking through my truck just to see what’s in it! Even if it’s parked on public, it still belongs to me just like cameras on public belong to the owners, if I wanted to see what is in that area then I would place my own camera and retrieve my own pictures. Just as I don’t sit in anyones stand that is left on public either. Just my two cents, God Bless!