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[bigmike23]

Here we go again with the odor discussion.
I don't think enough guys stop and think about residual odors we leave behind that may effect future hunts at that tree.
They also seldom talk about the lesser intensity of our odor in the fringes of our scent cone.

And as far as I know, I'm the only one that questions exactly which human odor alarms deer more than other human odors. Our feet don't smell like our pits, doesn't smell like our crotch, doesn't smell like or breath, doesn't smell like our fingerprints, doesn't smell like our ear wax. They all have different odors each of them produce. Logic says some of them are more volatile and should dissipate sooner (meaning less residual odor). And we humans don't smell alike either. We all know of some folks that emit more odors than the next person. In the last few years, I've noticed that my pits seldom stink. Is that due to diet? health? Meds? I have no idea.

Varying environmental conditions like humidity plays a roll in odor intensity and longevity.
On top of it, we are dealing with critters that have individual personalities and may have had all sorts of encounters with humans which makes it nearly impossible to predict how a particular deer will react if they catch the faintest whiff of us.

No doubt that we get busted far more often than we realize. Even though a deer may smell us, that doesn't mean they will always blow out in a panic.
I'm going to continue trying to address every detail that I can. Odor reduction in all parts of my body, play the wind as best as possible, keep gear clean, resist touching anything on my way in or out along my access, and a dozen other things, too.
And you know what? Most of the time the deer will still win, but occasionally they will slip up. If I put as many odds in my favor as I can, those odds will shift my way....just ever so slightly. It's all part of the fun and challenge of deer hunting.

Well I'm firmly in the camp of nothing you can do will ever make an iota of difference.
But not wanting to get into that, I don't know how people have the patience for all the scent totes, washing clothes, bathing before going out, keeping truck scent free etc etc. I've done that all at one point, and I quickly realized I'm way too lazy to keep it up lol. It's so freeing to just go hunting with my vial of milkweed ready to go

 

[DroptineKrazy]

Here we go again with the odor discussion.
I don't think enough guys stop and think about residual odors we leave behind that may effect future hunts at that tree.
They also seldom talk about the lesser intensity of our odor in the fringes of our scent cone.

And as far as I know, I'm the only one that questions exactly which human odor alarms deer more than other human odors. Our feet don't smell like our pits, doesn't smell like our crotch, doesn't smell like or breath, doesn't smell like our fingerprints, doesn't smell like our ear wax. They all have different odors each of them produce. Logic says some of them are more volatile and should dissipate sooner (meaning less residual odor). And we humans don't smell alike either. We all know of some folks that emit more odors than the next person. In the last few years, I've noticed that my pits seldom stink. Is that due to diet? health? Meds? I have no idea.

Varying environmental conditions like humidity plays a roll in odor intensity and longevity.
On top of it, we are dealing with critters that have individual personalities and may have had all sorts of encounters with humans which makes it nearly impossible to predict how a particular deer will react if they catch the faintest whiff of us.

No doubt that we get busted far more often than we realize. Even though a deer may smell us, that doesn't mean they will always blow out in a panic.
I'm going to continue trying to address every detail that I can. Odor reduction in all parts of my body, play the wind as best as possible, keep gear clean, resist touching anything on my way in or out along my access, and a dozen other things, too.
And you know what? Most of the time the deer will still win, but occasionally they will slip up. If I put as many odds in my favor as I can, those odds will shift my way....just ever so slightly. It's all part of the fun and challenge of deer hunting.

^^^100%

 

[Still Kicking]

I believe most deer have an extremely acute sense of smell but don't all react the same to human scent. I've had younger deer smell me and walk toward me sniffing to within a yard, I have also had mature deer smell a vine I touched 2 hours earlier and knock over small trees escaping. I believe their individual experience with human interaction is the primary factor to their reaction. I just spray down my boots and pants with scent killer and avoid touching anything and play the wind.

 

[BackSpasm]

Here we go again with the odor discussion.
I don't think enough guys stop and think about residual odors we leave behind that may effect future hunts at that tree.
They also seldom talk about the lesser intensity of our odor in the fringes of our scent cone.

And as far as I know, I'm the only one that questions exactly which human odor alarms deer more than other human odors. Our feet don't smell like our pits, doesn't smell like our crotch, doesn't smell like or breath, doesn't smell like our fingerprints, doesn't smell like our ear wax. They all have different odors each of them produce. Logic says some of them are more volatile and should dissipate sooner (meaning less residual odor). And we humans don't smell alike either. We all know of some folks that emit more odors than the next person. In the last few years, I've noticed that my pits seldom stink. Is that due to diet? health? Meds? I have no idea.

Varying environmental conditions like humidity plays a roll in odor intensity and longevity.
On top of it, we are dealing with critters that have individual personalities and may have had all sorts of encounters with humans which makes it nearly impossible to predict how a particular deer will react if they catch the faintest whiff of us.

No doubt that we get busted far more often than we realize. Even though a deer may smell us, that doesn't mean they will always blow out in a panic.
I'm going to continue trying to address every detail that I can. Odor reduction in all parts of my body, play the wind as best as possible, keep gear clean, resist touching anything on my way in or out along my access, and a dozen other things, too.
And you know what? Most of the time the deer will still win, but occasionally they will slip up. If I put as many odds in my favor as I can, those odds will shift my way....just ever so slightly. It's all part of the fun and challenge of deer hunting.

I go to great lengths to ensure my ear wax and crotch smell identical thank you very much

 

[Chrighton]

Frumunda cheese

 

[Blacksmith]

I believe most deer have an extremely acute sense of smell but don't all react the same to human scent. I've had younger deer smell me and walk toward me sniffing to within a yard, I have also had mature deer smell a vine I touched 2 hours earlier and knock over small trees escaping. I believe their individual experience with human interaction is the primary factor to their reaction. I just spray down my boots and pants with scent killer and avoid touching anything and play the wind.

I was Hanging in My Tree Diaper a Couple Days Ago & Watched a Nice 2 1/2 Yr Old Walk Into My Scent Stream @ About 40 Yds. He Stiffened for a Second & Slowly Backed Out the Way he Came. I Wondered How Many Times That's Happened To Me That I Never Witnessed...

 

[TheBlindCat]

I was Hanging in My Tree Diaper a Couple Days Ago & Watched a Nice 2 1/2 Yr Old Walk Into My Scent Stream @ About 40 Yds. He Stiffened for a Second & Slowly Backed Out the Way he Came. I Wondered How Many Times That's Happened To Me That I Never Witnessed...

Did your diaper smell a little ripe?

 

[Iron_llama]

On the topic of scents...
I have to evidence one way or another but I think an individual deer's reaction to stimulus is influenced by context. A deer that eats your neighbor's hostas and nibbles on the jack-o-lantern on your porch is unbothered by human scents when they're around people, or at night when they're active. I would expect that same deer to bust if they're not expecting to smell the same human scents they did while feeding near houses.

 

[okccj]

Here we go again with the odor discussion.
I don't think enough guys stop and think about residual odors we leave behind that may effect future hunts at that tree.
They also seldom talk about the lesser intensity of our odor in the fringes of our scent cone.

And as far as I know, I'm the only one that questions exactly which human odor alarms deer more than other human odors. Our feet don't smell like our pits, doesn't smell like our crotch, doesn't smell like or breath, doesn't smell like our fingerprints, doesn't smell like our ear wax. They all have different odors each of them produce. Logic says some of them are more volatile and should dissipate sooner (meaning less residual odor). And we humans don't smell alike either. We all know of some folks that emit more odors than the next person. In the last few years, I've noticed that my pits seldom stink. Is that due to diet? health? Meds? I have no idea.

Varying environmental conditions like humidity plays a roll in odor intensity and longevity.
On top of it, we are dealing with critters that have individual personalities and may have had all sorts of encounters with humans which makes it nearly impossible to predict how a particular deer will react if they catch the faintest whiff of us.

No doubt that we get busted far more often than we realize. Even though a deer may smell us, that doesn't mean they will always blow out in a panic.
I'm going to continue trying to address every detail that I can. Odor reduction in all parts of my body, play the wind as best as possible, keep gear clean, resist touching anything on my way in or out along my access, and a dozen other things, too.
And you know what? Most of the time the deer will still win, but occasionally they will slip up. If I put as many odds in my favor as I can, those odds will shift my way....just ever so slightly. It's all part of the fun and challenge of deer hunting.

Is it possible that John Eberhart simply doesn't emit much, if any, human odor? So all his scent prep stuff is really for nothing?
Only half joking.

 

[bigmike23]

On the topic of scents...
I have to evidence one way or another but I think an individual deer's reaction to stimulus is influenced by context. A deer that eats your neighbor's hostas and nibbles on the jack-o-lantern on your porch is unbothered by human scents when they're around people, or at night when they're active. I would expect that same deer to bust if they're not expecting to smell the same human scents they did while feeding near houses.

I've thought the same. A mature buck reacts differently to scent picked up in a food plot vs his bedding area.
I thought about it like if you heard gunfire immediately outside your home, you'd freak the hell out. Vs if you heard shots in Southside Chicago you'd just shrug your shoulders saying same ol same ol lol

 

[Dcomer55]

Is it possible that John Eberhart simply doesn't emit much, if any, human odor? So all his scent prep stuff is really for nothing?
Only half joking.

I heard an explanation for how he gets away with it at the Mobile Hunter Roadshow that I thought was interesting.

John typically hunts extremely high which puts him at a scent advantage by catching more of the prevailing wind and more importantly the upward draft of thermals are more prevalent.

not saying that’s correct or incorrect, I just found it interesting.

 

[Swampwalker]

This ^^^^^^^^ IMO

 

[CooterBrown]

Here we go again with the odor discussion.
I don't think enough guys stop and think about residual odors we leave behind that may effect future hunts at that tree.
They also seldom talk about the lesser intensity of our odor in the fringes of our scent cone.

And as far as I know, I'm the only one that questions exactly which human odor alarms deer more than other human odors. Our feet don't smell like our pits, doesn't smell like our crotch, doesn't smell like or breath, doesn't smell like our fingerprints, doesn't smell like our ear wax. They all have different odors each of them produce. Logic says some of them are more volatile and should dissipate sooner (meaning less residual odor). And we humans don't smell alike either. We all know of some folks that emit more odors than the next person. In the last few years, I've noticed that my pits seldom stink. Is that due to diet? health? Meds? I have no idea.

Varying environmental conditions like humidity plays a roll in odor intensity and longevity.
On top of it, we are dealing with critters that have individual personalities and may have had all sorts of encounters with humans which makes it nearly impossible to predict how a particular deer will react if they catch the faintest whiff of us.

No doubt that we get busted far more often than we realize. Even though a deer may smell us, that doesn't mean they will always blow out in a panic.
I'm going to continue trying to address every detail that I can. Odor reduction in all parts of my body, play the wind as best as possible, keep gear clean, resist touching anything on my way in or out along my access, and a dozen other things, too.
And you know what? Most of the time the deer will still win, but occasionally they will slip up. If I put as many odds in my favor as I can, those odds will shift my way....just ever so slightly. It's all part of the fun and challenge of deer hunting.

Maybe it's just old age and your smeller isn't working good if your pits quit stinking LOL.

 

[bowhuntr09]

Maybe it's just old age and your smeller isn't working good if your pits quit stinking LOL.

Could be diet related, I have heard numerous claims by people following the carnivore diet (meat, salt, water only) that their BO goes away, bad breath goes away, even ear wax is much less. Either way, I do think what you consume can effect your odors you leave behind.

 

[SoILslocker]

Speaking of scent control, I remember hearing last year about Deception Outdoors coming out with a new spray that had different science behind it. I never have tried it but curious if anyone here has? Supposedly used in the medical field & hunting is a new application.

32 oz. Field Spray - Deception Outdoor Group

Deception Scents provides a remarkable solution to eliminate scents, whether it be yours or your hunting partner’s (was referring to your dog but maybe your buddy needs some help). Our 32oz. Field Spray is a liquid product that oxidizes odors. Use it to pretreat your clothing, gear, or whatever...

deceptionoutdoorgroup.com

I am not a scent control guy, typically spray my boots with scent killer just because I bought a few bottles on sale a few years ago & haven't used it all up yet. But found this interesting & would like to learn more.

 

[Dsabhunt]

Does anybody know what's the hold up on the ewo cam cleat, right to left? Said end of August and here we are in September and still nothing. Does anybody under sell and over deliver? Just seems like every company hypes up their delivery date and misses it
I should add I have lots of stuff from ewo and will continue to purchase from them.

 

[BackSpasm]

Does anybody know what's the hold up on the ewo cam cleat, right to left? Said end of August and Gere we are un September and still nothing. Does anybody under sell and over deliver? Just seems like every company hypes up there delivery date and misses it
I should add I have lots of stuff from ewo and will continue to purchase from them.

Ditto on the gen 2 EWO kneepads... those were supposed to be in august too and nothing. I hope everything is going OK over there at EWO.

 

[Crcusmonky]

Does anybody know what's the hold up on the ewo cam cleat, right to left? Said end of August and Gere we are un September and still nothing. Does anybody under sell and over deliver? Just seems like every company hypes up there delivery date and misses it
I should add I have lots of stuff from ewo and will continue to purchase from them.

Stopped in yesterday and they said they were waiting on a part for the next batch. They anticipated next week or so. The next batch will be all right to left configuration. Hope this helps


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[gcr0003]

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I still want this for 2TC

 

[gcr0003]

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I saw the Encounter line is a new series from KUIU for early season whitetail hunting but I don’t really see the point.