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.17 HMR

If you’re looking for a more direct answer. It would be .22lr in Cz 457. Those bmr are sweet though haha never shot one just looked at em a couple times.
Can you give more details? Gonna shoot a lot? How far? A lot meaning hundred of rounds a month.

I can shoot in my backyard, so 100+ rounds/month easily. As far as distance, 100-150 yards for paper; max 50 or maybe 60 for squirrels.
 
I can shoot in my backyard, so 100+ rounds/month easily. As far as distance, 100-150 yards for paper; max 50 or maybe 60 for squirrels.
.17 wouldn’t break the bank then! Although in my opinion a good .22lr will do everything a .17 can with all those options u mentioned
 
U guys must have some crazy tuff squirrels hahaha.....we kill most of our tree rats with the ol 10 pump bb gun.....1 extra pump for the big mature bull squirrels... Most of the people Ive ever spoken with about it like the 17 for small game season hog hunting.
 
U guys must have some crazy tuff squirrels hahaha.....we kill most of our tree rats with the ol 10 pump bb gun.....1 extra pump for the big mature bull squirrels... Most of the people Ive ever spoken with about it like the 17 for small game season hog hunting.

Only reason I bought a .17 - zero recoil option that can kill any small game and hogs in one gun. I’ve killed zero hogs with it while squirrel hunting. And made a lot of squirrels into bits. The PCP goes with me in the woods for squirrels. Big fox squirrels. Loud guns are annoying.
 
Buy the BMR or Christensen Ranger in .22LR lol. Shoot and hunt with it for a while, realize that you actually need a .22-250Rem and buy that, just to find out that the .22-250 is overkill, and pick up a .223Rem and suppress it, acknowledge that the ammo is more expensive than .17HMR (and it's still overkill) and buy the .17 for hunting and target. When you're done with that journey, you're hooked on firearms and you now need a .308Win and a 6.5PRC, wait maybe two .308s and a 6.5PRC and 6.8Western, then...

Yup, just as bad as saddle hunting, just with the possibility of bigger ticket items... I mean I put on my big boy pants today, I can do this. "Yes, honey, I absolutely need that."
 
Buy the BMR or Christensen Ranger in .22LR lol. Shoot and hunt with it for a while, realize that you actually need a .22-250Rem and buy that, just to find out that the .22-250 is overkill, and pick up a .223Rem and suppress it, acknowledge that the ammo is more expensive than .17HMR (and it's still overkill) and buy the .17 for hunting and target. When you're done with that journey, you're hooked on firearms and you now need a .308Win and a 6.5PRC, wait maybe two .308s and a 6.5PRC and 6.8Western, then...

Yup, just as bad as saddle hunting, just with the possibility of bigger ticket items... I mean I put on my big boy pants today, I can do this. "Yes, honey, I absolutely need that."
You'd be surprised how many centerfires and traditional muzzleloaders I have.

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You can never, ever have too many guns!!!!

Oh I know! I have found the optimal number to always be outside the realm of dedicated storage, or all you can fit plus a handful more haha! A reloader, long range shooter, defense, certified S&W armorer, prior rifle competitor (would love to get into PRS one day), sporting clays, and hunting (and the list goes on)... Although I'm a professional bow tech in a retail setting, as one of my responsibilities, and very good at it; there was a time I was WAY more involved with precision rifle shooting. All that aside, my hunting passion is still deer with the bow!
 
Just get both! But if I had to get only one it would definitely be a .22. Just more versatile in my mind. Honestly though, I don't have much experience with .17s. A guy at our camp has one, it's a nice accurate gun, but every squirrel he shoots with it is blown to smithereens. I would think that can be solved with the right bullet?
 
Just get both! But if I had to get only one it would definitely be a .22. Just more versatile in my mind. Honestly though, I don't have much experience with .17s. A guy at our camp has one, it's a nice accurate gun, but every squirrel he shoots with it is blown to smithereens. I would think that can be solved with the right bullet?

Yup - one not traveling 3000fps.
 
Oh I know! I have found the optimal number to always be outside the realm of dedicated storage, or all you can fit plus a handful more haha! A reloader, long range shooter, defense, certified S&W armorer, prior rifle competitor (would love to get into PRS one day), sporting clays, and hunting (and the list goes on)... Although I'm a professional bow tech in a retail setting, as one of my responsibilities, and very good at it; there was a time I was WAY more involved with precision rifle shooting. All that aside, my hunting passion is still deer with the bow!

I have found the optimal number to always be one more than I currently have.
 
I've got two 10/22s and a Marlin bolt gun... I think a 925? In .22LR. I've been intrigued by the .17s but the price and availability of .22LR is compelling. One of these days I might put together an Encore barrel .17 Hornet or something similar, though, just to see what the sub-caliber fuss is all about.
 
I have a Bergara B-14R Steel in .22LR as a matched trainer rifle to a B-14 in 6.5CM.

It’s absolutely lights out and flat out fun to shoot. It’s not “miniaturized” like a lot of other .22LRs. Dimensions match the big brother exactly with the exception of barrel length, and you can put any trigger that fits a Rem 700 in it. They come in .22LR, .17 HMR, and .22 WMR.
 
Get both. One thing I didn't see mentioned is using specific hunting loads for both, huge difference in performance in the 22, I've never had opportunity to use in the 17hmr on squirrels but it makes a mess of groundhogs. Sadly the potential best squirrel round ever was the 17HM2 but it lost traction and isn't produced, as far as I know, anymore.
 
My .17 won't shoot a CCI FMJ, or Gamepoint, worth a dang; but it does absolutely love the Hornady loading of the 17 gr. V-MAX, so that's the only ammo I buy for it.
My Marlin 917v won’t shoot the hornady stuff. It will print very tiny groups with the CCI 20gr Gamepoints . That little 20 grain hP will mush even the biggest hogs brain though. I shoot them anywhere from the eye to the ear and they crumble. Longest shot was 147 yards and DRT. My 10/22 or Marlin 60 is a better dedicated squirrel gun but in Florida you never know when it turns to a pig killing.
 
My Marlin 917v won’t shoot the hornady stuff. It will print very tiny groups with the CCI 20gr Gamepoints . That little 20 grain hP will mush even the biggest hogs brain though. I shoot them anywhere from the eye to the ear and they crumble. Longest shot was 147 yards and DRT. My 10/22 or Marlin 60 is a better dedicated squirrel gun but in Florida you never know when it turns to a pig killing.

Every gun is an individual, even if they're consecutive serial numbers lol. The .17 I own won't shoot a 20gr. pill worth a darn compared to the 17gr. stuff, and most of the stuff prints fairly inconsistently except for the Hornady. My furthest DRT shot with the .17 was slightly beyond what I would deem true effective range, but I was able to put it in the ear! Mine is not an expensive gun, nor is it necessarily a lightweight carry setup, but my tally with that gun probably exceeds all my others together, even though it's not my "preferred" choice haha! Lotta work went into this little thing, by me, not "professionally" paid for.

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My dad had always wanted a 22 mag, but never wanted to spend the money on a nice one for himself with all the trap shooting we did growing up so I bought him a Marlin 917V (walnut stock, he's old school) and put a DNZ mount and Leupold 3-9 on it when I got my first real job after college.... fast forward about 10 years. He is retired now and I'm not sure there is a safe woodchuck within sight of my parents house. He loves that thing and it goes everywhere with him.
 
Every gun is an individual, even if they're consecutive serial numbers lol. The .17 I own won't shoot a 20gr. pill worth a darn compared to the 17gr. stuff, and most of the stuff prints fairly inconsistently except for the Hornady. My furthest DRT shot with the .17 was slightly beyond what I would deem true effective range, but I was able to put it in the ear! Mine is not an expensive gun, nor is it necessarily a lightweight carry setup, but my tally with that gun probably exceeds all my others together, even though it's not my "preferred" choice haha! Lotta work went into this little thing, by me, not "professionally" paid for.

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IMG_4439.jpegI put mine in a Boyd Thumbhole. Bedded the action, floated the barrel and shimmed the sear spring. Betty breaks at 1.2# and is deadly. Before bedding it shot the Hornady stuff better than CCI and once it was glassed it stacks the 20gr. I absolutely love that rifle. It never leaves my truck unless it’s in my hands or I’m going somewhere where I can’t have in here.
 
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