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1st time climb (this tree), show me a better way

As a site where people come to learn, it's important promote the methods with the highest level of safety. I also think it is perfectly ok to demonstrate methods that are not as safe as long as that is disclosed. I wouldnt want someone pushing my friends or family into something high or higher risk without disclosing that risk and explaining safer methods. If they then choose to go the more risk route and something happens, well they made their choice, if they were never shown the safe or safer option, well that's a problem.
 
somebody posted this also, personally I'm gong to let others on here refine this method before I'll consider it
 
colin.704 said:
people on this site were sewing sit and drags when I signed up. I think the risk is implied
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At some point I imagine there was some actual expertise offered on how to sew a sit drag so it would support a human load, no?

At some point, actual expertise was offered on the dangers of climbing above one’s tether.

Call OSHA? Geez. Just take an extra minute or two during your ascent to manage your situation. Your climb will still be plenty fast. Gravity doesn’t care that you were a linesman.

Why accept “implied risk” when it can be mitigated by safe practice?
 
This one came to mind. It may not be quite the tree size, but…

 
BTaylor said:
As a site where people come to learn, it's important promote the methods with the highest level of safety. I also think it is perfectly ok to demonstrate methods that are not as safe as long as that is disclosed. I wouldnt want someone pushing my friends or family into something high or higher risk without disclosing that risk and explaining safer methods. If they then choose to go the more risk route and something happens, well they made their choice, if they were never shown the safe or safer option, well that's a problem.
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I agree with @BTaylor on this.
A guy at the Florida meet up doing a one stick demo fell from about 6 feet.
My point, things can go wrong.
 
I'll be 64 in June and to me speed means nothing. I climb at a nice pace and do use my linemans belt. I just don't understand what's the big hurry. I worked heavy construction for 35 years and was seriously injured on the job when I was 56. Accidents happen in a blink of an eye. So I think safty is so much more important than speed. Be safe.
 
If you are proficient at your chosen method, any method is fast enough. If you are like me, you are going to sit the dark for 20-30 min whether it takes you 5min or 30 min to get up the tree. In reality, with proficient climbers, there’s prolly not 10 min between all the methods. So, if you picked the slowest method (relatively), you don’t necessarily need a new method, you just need to reset your alarm. It’s cheaper than a new method and you don’t need extensive new training to perfect it. So even if someone jumps up and shows me something that’s 10 min faster I’m not switching. Are you?
 
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