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8mm Oplux questions & uses

DanO said:
60cm Jammys and 6mm TRC on order.
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Nice! I’ll be placing another order soon. I like to have backups, and LB and tether are no different. And glad to hear you will be selling the 60cm jammys.

Did you see how I cut down your triangular tender in my pic? It works great for me! and the triangular portion really fits the oplux nicely through it. I think that close fit helps with making tending slack easier.
 
weekender21 said:
Thought this reply from Madrock may be useful. I asked about using 8mm OpLux with the Safeguard. Decipher this however you wish. Actual reply below:

“Sorry for the delayed response. Our manufacturers suggested rope diameter for this device does not cover the 8mm rope that you're inquiring about.

However, there have been outside demonstrations done on Youtube that show our Lifeguard belay device with a Sterling 8mm Canyon Lux rope. Both the Lifeguard and Safeguard share almost identical construction (the Safeguard does not have a spring in the device).


Perhaps this might help with your inquiry.

Cheers,”



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Thanks for the post. My takeaway from that is the lifeguard and safeguard should be good with the 8mm oplux even tho it's not rated for that small of rope. Madrock did not say it's not safe and sited that video where it tested over 8KN. What do you guys think is it ok or not? My concern is the test is a slow pull in ideal conditions. How does that translate to an impact on a wet rope?

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diff74 said:
Thanks for the post. My takeaway from that is the lifeguard and safeguard should be good with the 8mm oplux even tho it's not rated for that small of rope. Madrock did not say it's not safe and sited that video where it tested over 8KN. What do you guys think is it ok or not? My concern is the test is a slow pull in ideal conditions. How does that translate to an impact on a wet rope?

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Test it for yourself at ground or near ground height. You gotta be comfortable with your equipment and YOU have to make the decision on wether it is acceptable to you. Now, for me, I rock the OpLux and Safeguard and will continue to do so until I have reason not to. I may get hurt or die from using equipment out of spec from what the manufacture suggest, but if I do I have nobody to blame but myself cause I know it ahead of time.
 
I agree just looking for opinions from people with more experience than me. I used a ropeman 1 for a couple years now and we know it desheaths ropes at 4kn on a similar test so the safeguard on 8mm oplux has twice the load capacity so it looks like something worth giving a try, extensively at ground level first.

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Oplux has really got me thinking.... I am currently using 50' of 9mm HTP for SRT. From my experiences, I am really having issues with the girth hitch and pulling the anchor down. I am even using a delta link and still struggling. If Oplux is that much smaller and easier to pack, I should be able to add 10-15 more feet and anchor the Oplux to the base of the tree instead. Seems like this would be less of a fiddle factor as well.
 
rakbowhunter said:
Oplux has really got me thinking.... I am currently using 50' of 9mm HTP for SRT. From my experiences, I am really having issues with the girth hitch and pulling the anchor down. I am even using a delta link and still struggling. If Oplux is that much smaller and easier to pack, I should be able to add 10-15 more feet and anchor the Oplux to the base of the tree instead. Seems like this would be less of a fiddle factor as well.
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I am thinking of upgrading to Oplux as well from my Beal 8mm climbing line.
In pulling your anchor down, make sure to attach your carabiner to the line you are SRTing on above your end loop and not to the end loop. Pulling on your retrieval line pulls your climbing line up the tree and through your end loop. That way, the rope does not encounter the friction against the tree.
 
bj139 said:
I am thinking of upgrading to Oplux as well from my Beal 8mm climbing line.
In pulling your anchor down, make sure to attach your carabiner to the line you are SRTing on above your end loop and not to the end loop. Pulling on your retrieval line pulls your climbing line up the tree and through your end loop. That way, the rope does not encounter the friction against the tree.
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Ahh. That seems to make perfect sense. Will definitely give that a go. Appreciate it!
 
rakbowhunter said:
Oplux has really got me thinking.... I am currently using 50' of 9mm HTP for SRT. From my experiences, I am really having issues with the girth hitch and pulling the anchor down. I am even using a delta link and still struggling. If Oplux is that much smaller and easier to pack, I should be able to add 10-15 more feet and anchor the Oplux to the base of the tree instead. Seems like this would be less of a fiddle factor as well.
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Attach your pull cord like this and you won’t have trouble retrieving your rope. This issue with a figure 8 is the occasional hassle setting your rope. The knot can be challenging to get over the crotch on some trees.

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Buckshot1822 said:
Yes I am on my mantis, adjustable with a beal jammy. It works good.


I am using oplux and a jammy as an adjustable bridge. It binds up really tight and is hard to unload. I have a shizll I can try with it.

I wish I could find a 5 or 6 mm sewn eye to eye cord to use with a distel hitch on oplux.
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Finally got around to trying the shizll with the oplux and jammy. It works pretty good, the hole is a little big on the oplux

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Not sure if I missed it, but it seems like everyone is looking for the 60 cm Jammy. I picked up a 50 cm Jammy at REI and it works just fine on 8mm line with Schwabisch. I also like the gray color better.


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I see the safegard is being tested/used out of spec on the Oplux. After trying a few different tender configurations and a ropeman 2, I think I will try the "out of spec" ropeman 1 BUT back it up with the Beal Jammy in a prusic configuration connected to the carabiner. Seems to hold ok on initial ground level testing. The ropeman 1 will also serve as a tender for the Jammy since it is not loaded.

Am i nuts?
 
mtsrunner said:
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Not sure if I missed it, but it seems like everyone is looking for the 60 cm Jammy. I picked up a 50 cm Jammy at REI and it works just fine on 8mm line with Schwabisch. I also like the gray color better.


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Nice! I have to measure the tag ends of my 60cm to see if I have 10 cm I can do without. Gray color looks better / more muted.

How do you like the schwabisch? Do you feel keeping it properly dressed is any issue? I felt the distel was easier as ends were coming out of opposite sides. Thoughts on this?
 
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predatorhunter said:
I see the safegard is being tested/used out of spec on the Oplux. After trying a few different tender configurations and a ropeman 2, I think I will try the "out of spec" ropeman 1 BUT back it up with the Beal Jammy in a prusic configuration connected to the carabiner. Seems to hold ok on initial ground level testing. The ropeman 1 will also serve as a tender for the Jammy since it is not loaded.

Am i nuts?
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Not being argumentative, but if the Beal jammy is backup, why not just use it and tender instead of ropeman. Before I moved away from ropeman, I used prusik as backup. It just seemed too many moving parts.

What friction hitch are you using? If prusik, it is worthwhile to try a distel, schwabisch or klemheist. They don’t get locked up like a prusik does.
 
sojourner said:
Nice! I have to measure the tag ends of my 60cm to see if I have 10 cm I can do without. Gray color looks better / more muted.

How do you like the schwabisch? Do you feel keeping it properly dressed is any issue? I felt the distel was easier and ends were coming out of opposite sides. Thoughts on this?
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I like the Schwabisch so far. Only been up in the tree about 5 times with it so far. I used and Prusik for 29 years, so it will take a while to overwrite that muscle memory. I tried the distal and it didn’t seem to grab as well for me as the schwabisch. However, I have ordered some Oplux and will give the distal another go when it gets here.
 
mtsrunner said:
I like the Schwabisch so far. Only been up in the tree about 5 times with it so far. I used and Prusik for 29 years, so it will take a while to overwrite that muscle memory. I tried the distal and it didn’t seem to grab as well for me as the schwabisch. However, I have ordered some Oplux and will give the distal another go when it gets here.
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Sorry, iPhone autocorrect does not like the word ‘distel’
 
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