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Anybody gone back to mobile stands?
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This or find a Lone Wolf Alpha, or the larger version of the Novix tree stand.
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So as the owner of a saddle hunting website I'm going to stir the pot just a little and come to some of my brethren's defense.
I completely get that saddles aren't for everyone. I've known that for a long time. Everyone should hunt in what they like and makes them happy. We do this for fun so you should make it enjoyable.
I've pretty much been following this thread along quietly from the beginning and I disagree with many of the statements made about saddles.
A couple of the common ones. I guarantee you my entire hunting setup is lighter than anyone's treestand setup, and I'm not even the biggest weight weenie. The way I look at it is my ROS weights about 1 pound. What's the lightest stand? 6 pounds? Use your stand as a pack and maybe you can add my 2 pound pack in and I'm still 3 pounds lighter. I need a climbing system to get up either way, so I'd call it equal on my 7 wild edge stepps. A saddle and a safety harness cancel each other out within a pound.
I haven't hunted out of a treestand in close to 10 years. I've been primarily saddle hunting for close to 15. I can not even imagine carrying a treestand into the woods again. Like I said, I'm not the biggest weight weenie, but where my system really shines is how sleek it is. With a saddle on my waist, stepps in the shelf of my MR popup, it's very easy to slip through the woods and go under and over branches as needed and to do it quietly.
I feel like I can hunt any tree out of my saddle that I could out of a treestand. Sure some trees might set up better for a treestand, but others might set up better for a saddle.... I understand that not everyone is allowed to do it, but some trees may just needed to be prepped. I have hunted in fir trees before. Every situation is just different and the saddle is pretty adaptable.
I'll let you guys go back to discussing your mobile stands now. I just want to point out that since this is a saddle hunting site, I felt the need to re-state some of the advantages of hunting out of a saddle. There are more but I'll leave it there for now. Oh yea, and I only hunt on a ring of steps! I can't even think about hauling one of those saddle platforms all over the place.
I completely get that saddles aren't for everyone. I've known that for a long time. Everyone should hunt in what they like and makes them happy. We do this for fun so you should make it enjoyable.
I've pretty much been following this thread along quietly from the beginning and I disagree with many of the statements made about saddles.
A couple of the common ones. I guarantee you my entire hunting setup is lighter than anyone's treestand setup, and I'm not even the biggest weight weenie. The way I look at it is my ROS weights about 1 pound. What's the lightest stand? 6 pounds? Use your stand as a pack and maybe you can add my 2 pound pack in and I'm still 3 pounds lighter. I need a climbing system to get up either way, so I'd call it equal on my 7 wild edge stepps. A saddle and a safety harness cancel each other out within a pound.
I haven't hunted out of a treestand in close to 10 years. I've been primarily saddle hunting for close to 15. I can not even imagine carrying a treestand into the woods again. Like I said, I'm not the biggest weight weenie, but where my system really shines is how sleek it is. With a saddle on my waist, stepps in the shelf of my MR popup, it's very easy to slip through the woods and go under and over branches as needed and to do it quietly.
I feel like I can hunt any tree out of my saddle that I could out of a treestand. Sure some trees might set up better for a treestand, but others might set up better for a saddle.... I understand that not everyone is allowed to do it, but some trees may just needed to be prepped. I have hunted in fir trees before. Every situation is just different and the saddle is pretty adaptable.
I'll let you guys go back to discussing your mobile stands now. I just want to point out that since this is a saddle hunting site, I felt the need to re-state some of the advantages of hunting out of a saddle. There are more but I'll leave it there for now. Oh yea, and I only hunt on a ring of steps! I can't even think about hauling one of those saddle platforms all over the place.
Both are valuable tools. I still have 6 hang ons a,d love them too.
I will look i to the .75 but doubt it will be available. Dryad is probably no different than my fleece saddle. Hurts lower back to be balled up like a dung beetles dinner like that.
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So as the owner of a saddle hunting website I'm going to stir the pot just a little and come to some of my brethren's defense.
I completely get that saddles aren't for everyone. I've known that for a long time. Everyone should hunt in what they like and makes them happy. We do this for fun so you should make it enjoyable.
I've pretty much been following this thread along quietly from the beginning and I disagree with many of the statements made about saddles.
A couple of the common ones. I guarantee you my entire hunting setup is lighter than anyone's treestand setup, and I'm not even the biggest weight weenie. The way I look at it is my ROS weights about 1 pound. What's the lightest stand? 6 pounds? Use your stand as a pack and maybe you can add my 2 pound pack in and I'm still 3 pounds lighter. I need a climbing system to get up either way, so I'd call it equal on my 7 wild edge stepps. A saddle and a safety harness cancel each other out within a pound.
I haven't hunted out of a treestand in close to 10 years. I've been primarily saddle hunting for close to 15. I can not even imagine carrying a treestand into the woods again. Like I said, I'm not the biggest weight weenie, but where my system really shines is how sleek it is. With a saddle on my waist, stepps in the shelf of my MR popup, it's very easy to slip through the woods and go under and over branches as needed and to do it quietly.
I feel like I can hunt any tree out of my saddle that I could out of a treestand. Sure some trees might set up better for a treestand, but others might set up better for a saddle.... I understand that not everyone is allowed to do it, but some trees may just needed to be prepped. I have hunted in fir trees before. Every situation is just different and the saddle is pretty adaptable.
I'll let you guys go back to discussing your mobile stands now. I just want to point out that since this is a saddle hunting site, I felt the need to re-state some of the advantages of hunting out of a saddle. There are more but I'll leave it there for now. Oh yea, and I only hunt on a ring of steps! I can't even think about hauling one of those saddle platforms all over the place.
For me, im choosing ease of climb and over all comfort while hunting for several hours to all day sit over the 30min-1hour hike around. I went back to my AH flex with fleece and 1 stick with my AO Hybrid pack vs my jx3 i have been using. It was amazing slipping through the woods and not hanging up on stuff. Then there we were at tree. It took 25 minutes to climb with 1 stick rubbing bark, ROS steps slid on ocb strap only when you dont want them to, then ocb might open up on you, my pioneer steps fold sideways when traversing around, any fancy friction hitch I have tried wont tend no matter what fancy tender I have used with it. I just think the main trade off is being lighter weight but then you have multiple pieces of gear to check, maintain, and use rather than 2 piece climber or even 3 sticks and hangon.
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I ordered a .75 on 9-11. Web site said weeks. Delivered on 9-29.
The web says 7 to 10 days now.
How I look at it too.
Currently I have a blind, leaning stand, and saddle. When it comes to the saddle I have trees with permanent footings and sticks.
When it comes to "where I want to be" I have all the options- usually the blind in the rain/snow or on a very cold late morning to afternoon hunt. Tree stand when the wind is right or I'm lazy, and then I just alternate my trees depending on where I think I need to be.
I think it is all about developing a system that works and sticking to it. There is no question there is a lot of guys on here that love to tinker with their setups but it is not always necessary. I don't have any problems with any of the things that you mentioned. I can be up a tree with 7 stepps and a knaider in 10-15 minutes most of the time. I'm still using my golden buck steps but I've used the squirrel steps a lot too and I don't have any problems with them sliding on me. I've only once ever had the buckle come open on me when I had it too close to my toe. I'm using a ropeman2 so no problems with friction hitches tending.
If it doesn't work for you, it's all good! It doesn't affect me one way or the other. I like to offer up info to help people hunt in a saddle, but if a stand works better for someone then so be it.
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Vtbow
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I"ll throw this out there as well....
I thoroughly enjoy hunting out of a saddle, and this is now the 2nd time in 3 years I"ve had a fracture issue in a foot that just made it easier for me to hunt out of a stand...Though tI thoroughly enjoy the JX3 as well even with my foot issues, its nice to be able to just sit and not put any pressure on my currently broken foot....
I thoroughly enjoy hunting out of a saddle, and this is now the 2nd time in 3 years I"ve had a fracture issue in a foot that just made it easier for me to hunt out of a stand...Though tI thoroughly enjoy the JX3 as well even with my foot issues, its nice to be able to just sit and not put any pressure on my currently broken foot....
Lowg08
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I believe I have found the best of both worlds. I’ve went to a sit drag+RCH so I can lean or sit since I too have nice new hardware in my ankle. I have a millennium m7 microlite. I can sit or turn around and lean giving me options for relief if it get bad. Packs up pretty nice too. Had to give up rappelling though. So it’s back to sticks.
muzzypower
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Well…as a saddle, climber, hang on, ladder, and ground hunter…i just moved another stand, which i said i’d never do again, but then I did…and said i’d never do again. Again
I did some more mods to my summit titan sd and I swear it carries no different than some of the other setups I have tried (sticks/platform, jx3 1sticking/lwhc/ros. A good suspension system was needed, much like jx3 anyway, so I added molle II system. This allows the 2 pieces to cinch with 1 built in strap and x2 slot buckle at top in a second instead of wrapping the green cam strap around the units. Removed cable shrink tube and taped with gorilla tape. It now slides in silent and easier than ratty shrink wrap that wont hold up. I added a mil surplus gas mask pouch on side for kill kit, grunt call, haul line, dry wool short. This pouch folds into the 2 units while packed as to not extend the frame any. Head lamp and other items like release, israli bandage go in pant pocket so no longer a need for a back pack. For extra winter layers, ranger roll and tuck into the frames. For hauling meat, the bottom frame is perfect for that. This is of course with an old school summit. I would stear clear of what its become now.
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Summit needs some fold flat options. They are missing the target
I would rather trust my old summit welds than any new chinese weld or especially anything that pivots and pins together in order to fold flat. I have the largest climber made and it not being flat has never been an issue. The corners sticking above shoulders is more of an issue than folding flat. Also, tuck those cables.
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I hunt out of a windwalker everyday at 240. And have a backup in case I want to leave this one somewhere for a day or two. Never had any issues
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Center Punch
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Very interested in seeing what you've described here.
Any way to post pics so we can get a visual?
I have had this MOLLE II system on for 7 years and just now found this strap and buckle sewn on top that is located perfectly and it marries the 2 units without any play/noise while hiking. This way has drastically reduced messing around with the OEM cam strap and improved over all experience and smoothness with these climbers for me. They are not perfect but I cant do knee pads, aiders, multiple ropes, gear straps, tenders, lwhc otf adjustments, tending slack, hitching, stitching, camming over buckles, over camming platforms, cam cleats, drilling bolts, and on and on and on. Below is a size comparison to the jx3. Im 6-5 250 and would rather carry and especially ascend tree with summit. Since sept. I have switched between systems every few hunts every week and like summit. Also while making this post, I broke the fork adjustment knob on the jx3. Ive had it. What mod do I speak with pertaining to my account?
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