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Bow pull-up help

I use gear ties on both ends of mine. One end is attached to the saddle and the other to my bow. Once it's up and figure-8ed (or wrapped), it goes into my tether pouch but stays attached at the saddle until I'm out of the tree.
 
Yup - I hate when that happens.
YMMV but for what it is worth to you, one thing I learned is to leave the tag end of my hoist rope fairly long after I figure 8 the remainder of the rope. The tag end has a small loop on it, the other end has my hook; I NEVER mess with any potential tangles or wrap it back into a figure 8 until I am established in the tree on my tether -- and the tag end loop is fixed to my tether carabiner so it (in theory) would never fall on me again. You would probably laugh if you saw me set up because I am VERY deliberate in this process because it sucks to drop your haul rope!
Yeah, I usually do the same but I was trying to be quick and it seemed that the easiest way to get out the tangle was to untie the loop I "always" leave tied to my pack rather than pulling the entire length through the tangle. Well I learned that lesson the hard way... Again . Thankfully my diy gear holder daisy chain worked as a decent bow sling to carry it down on my back.
 
I am very new to saddle hunting - can someone explain the Figure 8 and Doyle Gear Hoist? or post a pic? is it that retractable dog leash looking deal?
 
As mentioned I used 3/4 mule tape and works well but gets chewed up and catches on briars easily. Then went to 4mm accessory cord. What a difference. 4 or 5 mm accessory cord is prefect to me. Some like the 3mm
 
I am very new to saddle hunting - can someone explain the Figure 8 and Doyle Gear Hoist? or post a pic? is it that retractable dog leash looking deal?
This youtube video has both methods (large rope - using elbow and hand) and (paracord size - pinky and thumb):

And doyle's hoist:

Which is similar to the dog leash looking deal, just purpose built. There are other manufactors, even a 3d printed one. Just search around the forum. Here is another good thread to start with:

 
We had a pretty good thread going about this not too long ago. A bunch of us tried out 3/8 nylon webbing and it works great. Doesn’t get tangled like paracord, on Amazon for $10

Webbing kills more deer, it’s a fact. Shorter blood trails too.
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Dang, you got orange webbing, all I could find was black. I’m jealous

Get the rainbow trout.
 
I dropped my paracord pull rope when fumbling with a tangle yesterday... Seems like the Doyle's hoist is still the preferred alternative so looks like there's one in my near future.

I have a small accessory carabiner on my right lower front saddle webbing molle, my haul line end-loop is clipped into that on the ground and not removed until I'm on the ground again! I just tuck it into my dump pouch when hunting.
 
I really like my Doyle’s. It the only piece of gear I don’t have to think about. I set my bow down reach to my right hip, grab the connector and attach to my bow. It’s always there and never requires me to do anything other than hook and unhook it. A few times a year I wish they had a 35’ option but I keep 15’ of paracord stored with my spurs. That’s the only time I need more length.
 
Looked for a while but couldn't find a Doyle's in stock anywhere. I went with the cheaper Allen hoist which works fine. I changed out the crappy line with Dynaglide and spliced a snap hook with eye on the end. I also use it to pull down for my rope after I rappel down. It's a bit thin on the hands but not much worse than paracord. And, when the bow is up or the rope is down, the hoist line is already neatly inside the winder. So much better than manually doing it!
 
Looked for a while but couldn't find a Doyle's in stock anywhere. I went with the cheaper Allen hoist which works fine. I changed out the crappy line with Dynaglide and spliced a snap hook with eye on the end. I also use it to pull down for my rope after I rappel down. It's a bit thin on the hands but not much worse than paracord. And, when the bow is up or the rope is down, the hoist line is already neatly inside the winder. So much better than manually doing it!

I am looking into doing this with my Allen hoist but nervous about opening up my hoist and not being able to get it back together and working properly. Did you have any problems with it? Any tips or suggestions when doing it?
 
I am looking into doing this with my Allen hoist but nervous about opening up my hoist and not being able to get it back together and working properly. Did you have any problems with it? Any tips or suggestions when doing it?

You shouldn't have any problems. The video someone made doing it with a Doyle's is dead on. Make sure all tension is off before opening it. There will be a little but it won't hurt anything. It seems like it could be complicated but you just have to pay attention to what you're doing.

As soon as you open it, mark the drum so you know which is the top side with an arrow to indicate the direction of pull. If you're holding it with the pull side to the right, it comes out clockwise.

On new line, put the plastic ball on, tie your clip and then thread other end back through case before tying and winding line onto the spool. If you're splicing your clip on the end, make sure you do a good taper or it'll hang a little when the last 6-8" retracts. After you install the new line, don't pull on the metal band that comes out of the spool (it'll come out some and you won't be able to get it back in.)

Wind the line by hand flat so you don't introduce twists into the line.

When you have all the line installed and the spool is back in the case, pull a few feet out and manually wind it around the spool. Test it to make sure the winder is pulling the string all the way into the hook. If not, pull out some and hand-wind one at a time until it positively retracts.

Most you'll get onto it is about 30'. You can put more line on but when you pull it out, only 30' will come out. Spring is maxed out at that point. I put about an extra foot on so that there's still some left on the spool at full extension.
 
You shouldn't have any problems. The video someone made doing it with a Doyle's is dead on. Make sure all tension is off before opening it. There will be a little but it won't hurt anything. It seems like it could be complicated but you just have to pay attention to what you're doing.

As soon as you open it, mark the drum so you know which is the top side with an arrow to indicate the direction of pull. If you're holding it with the pull side to the right, it comes out clockwise.

On new line, put the plastic ball on, tie your clip and then thread other end back through case before tying and winding line onto the spool. If you're splicing your clip on the end, make sure you do a good taper or it'll hang a little when the last 6-8" retracts. After you install the new line, don't pull on the metal band that comes out of the spool (it'll come out some and you won't be able to get it back in.)

Wind the line by hand flat so you don't introduce twists into the line.

When you have all the line installed and the spool is back in the case, pull a few feet out and manually wind it around the spool. Test it to make sure the winder is pulling the string all the way into the hook. If not, pull out some and hand-wind one at a time until it positively retracts.

Most you'll get onto it is about 30'. You can put more line on but when you pull it out, only 30' will come out. Spring is maxed out at that point. I put about an extra foot on so that there's still some left on the spool at full extension.
Thank so for all of that!!! Do you know where that video is?
 
Looked for a while but couldn't find a Doyle's in stock anywhere. I went with the cheaper Allen hoist which works fine. I changed out the crappy line with Dynaglide and spliced a snap hook with eye on the end. I also use it to pull down for my rope after I rappel down. It's a bit thin on the hands but not much worse than paracord. And, when the bow is up or the rope is down, the hoist line is already neatly inside the winder. So much better than manually doing it!
How many feet of Dynaglide did you get into the hoist. The hoist comes with 25 feet of cord
 
A little over 30’ but the spring can only pay out and retract 30’. I added some extra so there’s still be some on the spool when the spring maxed out.
 
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