I might try taking the daisy chain off the button and using elastic paracord on both ends of the daisy chain and try to use the grooves they built in to the sticks to wrap the chains around with the paracords attached to the steps somehow. Maybe they could then stack flush hopefully.They look to stack better than anything on the market if don’t mind removing the straps or having to use a daisy chain. Not a big deal having to remove the strap. I plan on doing that myself. Hook them off a carabiner on my saddle. Sure will make it easier packing everything up at the end of the day.