Wow thanks for the reply and in depth response. It is GREATLY appreciated. It does make me feel a lot better . I honestly thought it was a defect, I know HTP and grasp that concept Amstel is brand nee to me. Thankyou for taking the time !
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Feeling uneasy about amsteel
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Grab the end sticking out that you are concerned about, push on the strands around and above it to open them up, and then sorta push those overlying strands back. You should see the bury come out like a turtle sticking its head out. That is one rope inside another. The outer ropes tightens under pressure like a Chinese finger trap game from the carnival. That's how it works (better than a knot). Now, just smooth it all back down and it goes away, the bury will buried again. That's why it is called a bury.
I'd go on youtube and search for
amsteel splice
and you'll see it.
As strong as Amsteel is, it has properties that might not make it ideal for a bridge. With the small diameter technical ropes on the market now there is very little to be gained by using Amsteel. There are both sides of the argument spelled out in this thread.
Who the heck is making Amsteel tethers and Amsteel prussic combos and selling them on FB???
People please do your due diligence and understand what manufacturers designed their products for and recommend for and against. There is like a encyclopedia put out by Samson on what you should and shouldnt due with Amsteel...including specific specs such as bend radius'. I edited this from...
saddlehunter.com
It basically boils down to using what you are comfortable with, just make sure you are informed when making your decision. I personally don't have Amsteel anywhere in my system.
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I second this, except I do use amsteel for my steps and sticks (but nothing on saddle/bridge/tether/linemans), but climbing steps don't see dynamic loads ever (unless you are falling onto one...ouch) and I'm always tethered and with a lineman's lanyard also when climbing.
To clarify, I also use Amsteel with my climbing sticks. I was thinking about my tether/bridge when I said "my system". I agree with everything you said about it's use with sticks.
swampdonkey
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Agree with above, that’s the tag end of your bury sticking out.
I make my own bridges, that’s totally normal. You could just pull it out a bit, cut an inch off, then milk it back in and it would totally disappear.
But do a second bridge if you feel safer but rest assured that’s not a failing bridge. It’s not crazy to worry about something that you’re trusting your life to.
I also think it would be a good idea to watch some amsteel splicing videos as it would help you understand better what you’re looking at there.
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I'm gonna put this on a t-shirt or coffee mug.
swampdonkey
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Trust me, i remember those first few times leaning into my saddle at height thinking for sure that tether or bridge was going to fail and i’d be toast!
Takes some getting used to and had i seen anything that appeared frayed no way i’d have trusted it either.
Well that’s makes a ton of sense, it was def worrying me being it was right where the prusik loops over, I thought for sure it was getting worn! Thankyou!
Agree 100% Im not fond of heights at all, still new to this game. I feel 100% confident in the gear. In order to use it you have to. Spent a lot of time closer to the ground practicing. We have to trust our gear to get the most out of it.
I started to try backups and stuff but it seems to defeat the purpose of light and Manuverable. Seems I would get caught on this or that and just complicated things. Kind of went the KISS route and try and set a routine. Keeps me from forgetting stuff. Each person is different. Learn all you can, make educated choices, and decide what is safe enough for you, enjoy your time hanging out in a tree, and go home safe at the end of the day!
Dave
In assuming KISS is keep it simple stupid, unless that’s the KISS I know lol
Yes it is. The last "S" is a reminder to myself lol
I have amsteal aiders. If you watch some of tge tests done with amsteal actually lifting cars and stuff you would be fine.
i was very leary to about amsteal at first but after doung some research im totally fine with it.
i was very leary to about amsteal at first but after doung some research im totally fine with it.
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Up to everyone to decide what they’re comfortable with. I agree with everyone else that it’s just the bury. Maybe someone has the link to the video where they were trying to cut their tether with a broadhead. That video should help understand just how strong amsteel is.
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That is 100% the buried end just peeking out of a seam in the braid - nothing at all to be concerned about
Not just the Amsteel, the Lineman belt and tether also. There is a huge safety buffer built into this stuff. Its enough that I dont worry too much. But it is something that should be respected by all, is our backsides that are on the line. The OP is right about 1 thing though. Inspect your gear and Scrutinize anything that does not look right! Better to be safe then sorry.
2 things I didn't like about amsteel as a bridge especially being new is - it frays and that looks scary to me, will it hold no problem absolutely but I wasn't going to stare at it all day and second is it's slippery so every little move it slips right thru that carbiner fast and that gave me an uneasy feeling. I went with 1" tubular webbing, you have to force it almost to twist and it don't fray and I added a 1/8" or 3/16" amsteel as a back up. It's slightly loose so there's never any weight on it and it's lightly zip tied to the tubular so it's never flopping around and getting in the way
how did you attach your second bridge. I feel like I did mine correctly I just want to be sure. I have a tether line that came with my cruzr saddle, it’s HTP line. So the sewn eye I girthed around left hand loop and prusik and stopper knotted the other side (carabiner locks right loop to prussik) . I’m assuming this is sufficient, I just want to hear some other input
Once you mentioned it I went straight to YouTube last night and watched that video! Def made me sleep easier.