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Identify and educate please

Allegheny Tom said:
How was your rainfall situation this year? It's been very dry in this part of SW PA. Trees under stress from drought will often drop nuts early.
And ALWAYS ALWAYS break open a few acorns when you find them and inspect the inside for weevils or other issues. There can be tens of thousands of acorns on the ground and not a single one will be eaten by deer if every one of them has a weevil inside.
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This is spot on. Last fall I visited a white oak on a ridge that really did well a precious season. The ground was littered with big acorns. There was really no deer sign. This was strange because we did not have a good mast crop and I assumed any deer would quickly find a dropping oak. The acorns all had worms in them. In spite of the fact we had a bad acorn year, the deer were not eating the wormy acorns.
 
slonstdy said:
Cuz then everybody will no im dum :tearsofjoy:
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Don’t feel bad. He asked me earlier that morning. I told him I thought it was a persimmons tree but I’d never seen one down here before…. He didn’t believe me so he asked everyone else lol so you rest assured none of us would think you’re dumb… you just might want to double check the answers we give you :sweatsmile:
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Don’t feel bad. He asked me earlier that morning. I told him I thought it was a persimmons tree but I’d never seen one down here before…. He didn’t believe me so he asked everyone else lol so you rest assured none of us would think you’re dumb… you just might want to double check the answers we give you :sweatsmile:
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Persimmons was my first thought too when I got asked what I thought it was.....and like u, never seen 1 before.so can't be totally confident in my answer...so I ask peeps who maybe have seen 1 before and can be more confident in the answer....
 
Weldabeast said:
Persimmons was my first thought too when I got asked what I thought it was.....and like u, never seen 1 before.so can't be totally confident in my answer...so I ask peeps who maybe have seen 1 before and can be more confident in the answer....
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:sweatsmile:
I’ve seen them before just never in one of our WMA’s. I was in shock when you sent that pic… like make sure he hunts over that one!!!!
 
Weldabeast said:
Persimmons was my first thought too when I got asked what I thought it was.....and like u, never seen 1 before.so can't be totally confident in my answer...so I ask peeps who maybe have seen 1 before and can be more confident in the answer....
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Hence the double check answers comment…
It’s ok weldabeast, I second guess myself all the time… although I now want to download one of these tree and plant identifiers
 
dalton916 said:
Persimmons. Bite into one, they’re delicious. A little firm this time of year, but nothing you can’t handle.
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I found a persimmon tree in my wifes grandfathers yard while i was moving his grass the other day and saved some seeds from the orange fruits that had fallen. Wonder when the best time to try and sprout those seeds? My guess is spring time. How does the male/ female tree thing ( yes there are only two genders) work when using seeds from the fruit.
 
Ckwilli said:
So I met with a private land conversation specialist today about my property. He used picture this and I used iNatuarlist. His picture this blew the inaturalist away. Just FYI.
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I have the same experience. I prefer picture this way more
 
CooterBrown said:
I found a persimmon tree in my wifes grandfathers yard while i was moving his grass the other day and saved some seeds from the orange fruits that had fallen. Wonder when the best time to try and sprout those seeds? My guess is spring time. How does the male/ female tree thing ( yes there are only two genders) work when using seeds from the fruit.
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Not sure about where you’re at, for us it’s February to sow
 
CooterBrown said:
I found a persimmon tree in my wifes grandfathers yard while i was moving his grass the other day and saved some seeds from the orange fruits that had fallen. Wonder when the best time to try and sprout those seeds? My guess is spring time. How does the male/ female tree thing ( yes there are only two genders) work when using seeds from the fruit.
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I think, if I remember correctly, you have to scarify persimmon seeds to get them to germinate, if taken from ripe fruit. You could always gather some up that have gone through a coon or bear.
 
Allegheny Tom said:
How was your rainfall situation this year? It's been very dry in this part of SW PA. Trees under stress from drought will often drop nuts early.
And ALWAYS ALWAYS break open a few acorns when you find them and inspect the inside for weevils or other issues. There can be tens of thousands of acorns on the ground and not a single one will be eaten by deer if every one of them has a weevil inside.
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I’ll have to check that, but I’ll have to look up a weevil
 
elk yinzer said:
Stratify. It's a process to simulate winter conditions in your fridge, or you can just plant them in the fall and let nature do its thing. Many native seeds won't germinate without it.
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This was what I was referring too.


"Do persimmon seeds need scarification?


The persimmons need about 60 days of cold stratification. Since you collected directly from fruit then they will need a mechanical scarification also. Rubbing each seed on some sandpaper will do the trick---this will just improve the germination."
 
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