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$65 bucks? Son!I used a rated oval link for years but have changed over to a Singing Tree Quickie.
$65 bucks? Son!I used a rated oval link for years but have changed over to a Singing Tree Quickie.
I am new to this but I tried the lap link. It was super fast to connect but it was heavy and wanted to fall without tension on it. I also had it pop off twice while resetting my tether (one sticking). I will be using a delta link or something similar.No way I'd use that setup I saw in that video. He explicitly says not to, himself.
For those who haven't seen a lap link:
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I think this video appeared in another thread here somewhere, but I know when I saw it, my skepticism about how bad it could be took a hit.
I haven't seen similar testing for a steel, high strength carabiner - I know there are 70kn steel lockers, and that'd be the closest I get to this temptation.
No way I'd use that setup I saw in that video. He explicitly says not to, himself.
For those who haven't seen a lap link:
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That's crazy extreme compared to the rounded surface of a tree that is also much softer than metal. There's a video where someone does the same on a small tree branch using a come along and the carabiner embeds in the tree and almost breaks the tree and still works just find afterwards.
I went to a Tethrd teach n train event back in May. One of the Tethrd folks were using a lap link they filed/sanded smooth, and hammered closed just enough for his rope to fit. He was ADIMATE that no one should try it as its not intended for how he was using it. Same guy also had a Tethrd 1 stick kick out 12-15 ft up and slid a few feet down the tree until his tether stopped him - did the lap link hold him? Yes. So is it strong enough - Yes. Do I trust it? nope, but, to each there own.
Completely agree it's extreme vs tree climbing (the metal edge he's bending across), but force is force. I was surprised how much lower the KN strength was on a carabiner that direction. I'm still stupid enough to think "Hmm, maybe a steel 70kn locker tho..."
I just watched that video from THP. Thats the same guy I saw at the event. Openly said he cut his one stick and used jbweld which is pretty much what they used anyway.I call it being "terminally unique".