LWCG The Fix

[bowhuntr09]

I bit the bullet and have a set of 3 14” doubles and a fix headed my way. Will post pics when I have them

Hope you got the sale price.

 

[tcg144]

I bought the sticks black Friday and the stand second hand. Otherwise who knows when I would see the stand.

 

[tcg144]

Compacts? Maybe the doubles…

These are 14” double steps
Right out of the box last night without the button and strap mine are 1# 9oz

the button and strap are 8oz, I was planning to use amsteel. My fix should be here this week yet if I’m lucky.

 

[tcg144]

Here’s the fix without a strap, again I’m gonna use amsteel. 3# 9.3oz

 

[tcg144]

Fix with (3) 14” double steps stacked 2 different ways. Either way it’s still 6” deep. 20”x16x6 or 16x16x6. Gotta play with my popup28 and see how it fits best.

I would still like to see how 4 of the 14” compact sticks stack in here, not bad enough to buy them though.

8# 4oz without straps, need to order some amsteel

 

[Chrighton]

Those are the 14in doublesteps?

 

[Topdog]

Can anyone tell me if these 14” double step sticks have the rubber grommet things like the single step mini sticks do to hold them together, I have the .5 and 4 17” mini sticks, but I use my Ambush almost exclusively, and have been contemplating getting a set of sticks to pair with it as well, the 14” double step sticks caught my eye, but not if I have to bungee cord them on the platform or something, I would like to find a stick that packs on my Ambush like those minis do on my .5, maybe that’s not possible, I haven’t researched it much yet, I would prefer the double steps too so I could run a versa aider again. My Ambush and 4 14” double steps with a versa aider would be slick, if it packs nice.

 

[tcg144]

@Topdog Those are the 14” double sticks that I posted. They do not have any grommets.

 

[tcg144]

@enkriss
Could you post a picture of how the 14” compacts stack on the fix? Do the grommets in the compacts mate with the holes in the fix to attach?

 

[enkriss]

@enkriss
Could you post a picture of how the 14” compacts stack on the fix? Do the grommets in the compacts mate with the holes in the fix to attach?

1 grommet does. Then you need to use a j-hook to hold it there. I hate j-hooks. Added fiddle factor. I didn’t think it was practical.

Also, the holes on the fix and newer stands are to big for the grommets. There is lots of slop. Imagine a 3/8” peg in a 5/8” hole.

 

[tcg144]

Thanks for posting, looks like a smaller profile than the doubles, is the highest part in your photo the stand-off on the fix?

Just don’t know that I would like the single step which is why I went the way I did.

blows my mind to design it with those holes in the stand and not have them work for their own grommets.

 

[enkriss]

Thanks for posting, looks like a smaller profile than the doubles, is the highest part in your photo the stand-off on the fix?

Just don’t know that I would like the single step which is why I went the way I did.

blows my mind to design it with those holes in the stand and not have them work for their own grommets.

Highest point was the bracket.

They use to fit tight. They now use those holes for holding it in the fixture when machining and it don’t fit well.

 

[Topdog]

Thanks for posting, looks like a smaller profile than the doubles, is the highest part in your photo the stand-off on the fix?

Just don’t know that I would like the single step which is why I went the way I did.

blows my mind to design it with those holes in the stand and not have them work for their own grommets.

Your not kidding…. all these companies blow my mind, everyone is so hung up on weight how about packability, neat, trim, why do we have to spend $1k on this stuff and still find ways to lash it all down with bungee cords, the .5 and the way sticks integrate still are hands down the best system for those with OCD like myself, now make a platform do that, how hard can it be, do people that make this stuff ever pack it up in the dark with cold hands in snow storms, because that’s how we use it. Screwing around with gizmos, little gadgets under those conditions to pack up at night makes saving a few ounces the least of my concerns, I want simple, tough, and stupid easy to use.

 

[GeoFish]

Yea if they tell you different they are full of poopy.

LWCG is now listing the weights of all of there sticks on line. The 14" single step is listed at 1lb 9oz.
Since a Novix 15" single step stick is 1lb 6oz, not sure why I would spend $35 more for a LWCG.

 

[enkriss]

LWCG is now listing the weights of all of there sticks on line. The 14" single step is listed at 1lb 9oz.
Since a Novix 15" single step stick is 1lb 6oz, not sure why I would spend $35 more for a LWCG.

Post #109 is what mine weighed. They were heavy for what they were but they were very nice. When they offer the longer compacts with the fixed buttons I will probably buy them.

 

[Plebe]

LWCG is now listing the weights of all of there sticks on line. The 14" single step is listed at 1lb 9oz.
Since a Novix 15" single step stick is 1lb 6oz, not sure why I would spend $35 more for a LWCG.

I don't have 14" compacts but here are some general advantages of LWCG minis

1. Pack flat without modification
2. Longer standoff distance
3. Longer steps
4. Integrate with stand
5. Molle hook (if you like that)

 

[GeoFish]

I don't have 14" compacts but here are some general advantages of LWCG minis

1. Pack flat without modification
2. Longer standoff distance
3. Longer steps
4. Integrate with stand
5. Molle hook (if you like that)

I was comparing a 14" LWCG to a 15" Novix. Your #2 &3 don't apply.
Post 150 says they don't integrate that well with stand. I like the pack flat, but I am also cheep. And Novix gives a bigger military discount making the price difference greater.
But the LWCG stick sure is purdy.

 

[Plebe]

I was comparing a 14" LWCG to a 15" Novix. Your #2 &3 don't apply.
Post 150 says they don't integrate that well with stand. I like the pack flat, but I am also cheep. And Novix gives a bigger military discount making the price difference greater.
But the LWCG stick sure is purdy.

So far as I know, #2 and #3 apply.

I'll also add you can stand on top of the post on a LWCG mini stick, even more foot room. I've stood on the top step with both feet, and I'm wearing size 13-14 boots.

I don't care what post 150 says, they integrate better than Novix sticks.

I do like the companies offering Military Discounts, thats a good reason to support Novix/Trophyline. You can modify them to pack flat without much investment other than time. It will make them heavier, but not much. You can also modify them to accept j-hooks.

 

[GeoFish]

So far as I know, #2 and #3 apply.

I'll also add you can stand on top of the post on a LWCG mini stick, even more foot room. I've stood on the top step with both feet, and I'm wearing size 13-14 boots.

I don't care what post 150 says, they integrate better than Novix sticks.

I do like the companies offering Military Discounts, thats a good reason to support Novix/Trophyline. You can modify them to pack flat without much investment other than time. It will make them heavier, but not much. You can also modify them to accept j-hooks.

Sorry, by stand off I was thinking vertical.
I like the LWCG sticks. Quality of construction is great. I may get two of the 17" inch but I am going to wait and see what 2023 brings.

 

[Topdog]

I was comparing a 14" LWCG to a 15" Novix. Your #2 &3 don't apply.
Post 150 says they don't integrate that well with stand. I like the pack flat, but I am also cheep. And Novix gives a bigger military discount making the price difference greater.
But the LWCG stick sure is purdy.

What platform or stand are you running?