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Any insulated boot I bought. Either been useless on keeping my feet warm or impractical to climb or drag deer in.
If someone knows of a holy grail let me know.

I’ve basically been “under booting” and using arctic shield boot covers and the chemical warmers over my toes to make up for pack boots. So I think I’ve been using Lacrosse 1200 boots (not pacs) and that technique is awesome in my book so far
 
Any insulated boot I bought. Either been useless on keeping my feet warm or impractical to climb or drag deer in.
If someone knows of a holy grail let me know.
Not sure how cold you get, but the following worked for me just this past weekend at 18° with a single digit realfeel.

First, use antiperspirant on your feet.

Wear a thin dress sock or liner sock.

Wear a good wool sock.

Regular old tingley boots.

Make sure you're really warm on your torso and head.

Your feet won't be "warm" but they won't be hurting and going numb. Keeping them dry and preventing your body from deciding to pull blood from your extremities to keep your core temp up has worked for me.
 
I’m sure I’m going to get burned for this one. But I was not impressed with the quality of the Tethrd predator XL. Didn’t even get it on a tree. I’m sure it would have worked fine. I like the design of it. But the quality of the metal and parts is a serious let down for me for all the hype and support this thing gets. I cannot believe the post that comes warped well over 1/4” to one side is acceptable quality control. Just couldn’t get past that. I was quite suspect of the quality before buying and (for me) I was right. Bummer.


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I have one of those warped from the factory Predator XLs. Super bummed that it was warped but I have been very happy with it in the tree. It is a little big to find a pack that it fits in.
 
Not sure how cold you get, but the following worked for me just this past weekend at 18° with a single digit realfeel.

First, use antiperspirant on your feet.

Wear a thin dress sock or liner sock.

Wear a good wool sock.

Regular old tingley boots.

Make sure you're really warm on your torso and head.

Your feet won't be "warm" but they won't be hurting and going numb. Keeping them dry and preventing your body from deciding to pull blood from your extremities to keep your core temp up has worked for me.
First, don’t listen to boys from Alabama giving advice on cold weather gear…..:)
 
Not sure how cold you get, but the following worked for me just this past weekend at 18° with a single digit realfeel.

First, use antiperspirant on your feet.

Wear a thin dress sock or liner sock.

Wear a good wool sock.

Regular old tingley boots.

Make sure you're really warm on your torso and head.

Your feet won't be "warm" but they won't be hurting and going numb. Keeping them dry and preventing your body from deciding to pull blood from your extremities to keep your core temp up has worked for me.
What we were taught in arctic camp was to floss your toes.

Start by wearing (2) pair of wool socks and change them every 8 hours. Before putting on the new socks or going to bed, "floss" your toes with the old socks before putting the new ones on. That way, you dry your feet to keep them warm, dry and prevent foot issues.

Using that ideology, I've never had foot problems through all my winter camps...or hunting.
 
I have one of those warped from the factory Predator XLs. Super bummed that it was warped but I have been very happy with it in the tree. It is a little big to find a pack that it fits in.
Fun story to this. I actually bought another XL platform around the beginning of this season. It also had a warped post from the factory. I’m convinced they’re all like this. But I gave it a shot this time around. It is a nice platform I have to admit and I see why everyone likes them. Still not in love with the quality overall. Like the last one though, I ended up letting this one go too. Again.
 
Not sure how cold you get, but the following worked for me just this past weekend at 18° with a single digit realfeel.

First, use antiperspirant on your feet.

Wear a thin dress sock or liner sock.

Wear a good wool sock.

Regular old tingley boots.

Make sure you're really warm on your torso and head.

Your feet won't be "warm" but they won't be hurting and going numb. Keeping them dry and preventing your body from deciding to pull blood from your extremities to keep your core temp up has worked for me.

First, don’t listen to boys from Alabama giving advice on cold weather gear…..:)
That's kinda like me complaining about mosquitoes! :tearsofjoy: However, in this instance I do have to agree with him.

I have hunted several times in single digits (wind chills well below zero) this year and have yet to break out my "cold weather" pack boots. For my cold weather sits I have been wearing 1000gm thinsulate rubber boots (2 sizes too large) with a pair of light socks and two pairs of wool socks. I also wear wool bibs and camo bibs and tuck them into the top of the boots. The fact that boots are too large combined with the wool plug around the top traps in an air pocket that helps keep my feet warm. Also, keeping your torso and legs warm will definitely help keep a warm blood supply to your feet.
 
I'll try the foot spray and artic shields. I believe part of my problem is circulation so will be addressing that with up sizing on boots.
 
Fun story to this. I actually bought another XL platform around the beginning of this season. It also had a warped post from the factory. I’m convinced they’re all like this. But I gave it a shot this time around. It is a nice platform I have to admit and I see why everyone likes them. Still not in love with the quality overall. Like the last one though, I ended up letting this one go too. Again.

I did reach out to Tethrd and they said that it was close enough to spec that they wouldn't replace it. I think it was bowed about a 1/4 inch across the front of the platform but I can't remember. Another important piece of information is that I bought the platform used but never used. It was still in the box and Tethrd was able to determine the purchase date based on the original purchaser's address label. If I had been the original purchaser I expect they would have replaced it.
 
I'll try the foot spray and artic shields. I believe part of my problem is circulation so will be addressing that with up sizing on boots.
Foot spray, artic shields, and hand warmers in the boot covers. Works for me down into the teens with 15-20 mph winds. This was with 200g insulated boots. I also changed out my socks at the base of the tree with darn tough socks. Was hiking in about a mile.
 
I did reach out to Tethrd and they said that it was close enough to spec that they wouldn't replace it. I think it was bowed about a 1/4 inch across the front of the platform but I can't remember. Another important piece of information is that I bought the platform used but never used. It was still in the box and Tethrd was able to determine the purchase date based on the original purchaser's address label. If I had been the original purchaser I expect they would have replaced it.
Yep that’s pretty much what both of the ones I owned did. 1/4” or so leaning to the left or right. And they told me the same thing. Both of mine were actually new in the box. No previous owners. So guessing yours was not caused by the previous owner either.
 
Any insulated boot I bought. Either been useless on keeping my feet warm or impractical to climb or drag deer in.
If someone knows of a holy grail let me know.
My "catastrophic cold" boots are milsurp Bunny Boots. Probably too ungainly to 1-stick in but they handle rapid rails fine. Otherwise, Sorel snowmobile boots and Kamik rubber pac boots are my go-to winter boots. Sometimes backed up by electric socks.
 
Not derailing but trying to point out what did wrk great for me this season.

The following Items I HIGHlY RECOMMEND! What I Don’t Recommend are knee high Wellington style boots anymore unless walking in water all day

For the first time ever I tried those Hot Hand toe warmers as directed on the packaging underneath just one medium weight merino wool sock and that slips into an 9 or 10”800gram Browning hiker type hunting boot and wear gaiters over them and my feet have been very warm. The boots fit a little bigger too and I believe that gives me some air barrier insulation too. This has been the first year I’ve not worn any rubber “Wellington” type boots and my feet have been much warmer through the season than ever before. Granted, I’m not hunting in swamps and marshes and fording deep streams either.

So my early season boot was the Keen with gaiters, my mid to rut and beyond was the Browning with gaiters and then my all around heavy terrain hiking, saddle hunting 4-5 hour sit boots were the Hanwag trappers. 2474F0BE-B015-458C-9B86-A8BD80A91BB1.jpeg
 

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