it seems typical for LWCG to charge that much...they look like they make good products but looks like they care about the price of it way more....none of their **** is worth even close to what they list it at.
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Well, if you really want to get around those branches it can be done. I used a LW hand climber for years and have gone around plenty of branches while climbing. It's awkward at first but like anything else a little practice goes a long way.
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The LWCG Crossover is about as thin as a laptop, weighs sub 12lbs, and is machined aluminum.
That Summit is 23lbs. Not even close.
I had a TreeLounge. It packed flat…and big…and heavy.
I would not go that far, I have a bunch of their stuff, LOL.
Their sticks are competitive with other high end sticks, Tethrd, Timber Ninja, EWO and so on.
The .75 is a little high but the quality is tops.
I have no interest in the climber.
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I’d always prefer to buy high quality US made gear - and I’ll gladly pay a premium for it. But it’s got to be something that fills a need or solves an issue.
I’m not sure how you’ve extrapolated that folks on this forum are conditioned to buying cheap junk from Walmart and expect saddle gear to be the same. If anything, this forum seems to be laden with people who demand high quality craftsmanship and are glad to support gifted makers.
Fair.
I get confused by most of the reasons given for why that stand is expensive. I get people saying they don’t see the point of a climber. But tens of thousands of people do. And I’m sure at least hundreds will see the value in a very lightweight one.
It just seems like there’s a general sense of surprise at cost of equipment.
Reminded me of this post:
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Hawk climbing sticks will get you up a tree the same way as Tethrd ONE sticks....And you're asking on this forum, Is the weight difference enough to justify a 4x increase in cost? Lol.
A primary justifier of the price of the Crossover climber is that it is precision machined aluminum. That's what it took to make a paper thin lightweight climber. Is it that much lighter that it's worth it?
Consider a popular combination of .5 treestand (6.5lbs) and 4 Tethrd ONE sticks (4lbs) plus whatever aider(s) or another stick.
Here's a climber that on "climber-able" trees competes with that in weight, packing efficiency, ease of use, speed of climb, comfort, etc. and wins in some categories if not all.
It's achillies heel is tree limited selection, unless you hunt where that's not an issue.
Price of the former is $549.99 (LWCG .5) + 459.99 (4 Tethrd ONE sticks) to 599.98 (5 Tethrd ONE sticks).
Grand total = $1009.98 to $1149.97
So, at $999.99, the Crossover is cheaper too.
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Are you going to start a go fund me account to support him?
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He's said he makes money from his classifieds. And he's selling stuff he criticizes. You're calling for a go-fund-that?
very well put...im like a child when it comes to budgeting my money i guess
need someone to lay it out like this for me before im like yeah i guess its not that bad lol
I used to hunt public land with climbing stands. Hiked in many miles with a 30lb steel Summit. Then I upgraded to the Al Summit then an even lighter API Magnum climber. I paid 2-3x for the lighter aluminum climbers than I did the old steel Summit and it was worth every penny. I eventually bought a LWCG Hand Climber, which was 2x the API Magnum - and again worth the investment! You really can't appreciate the benefit of ultralight gear until you've carried a boat anchor around the steep MS River Bluffs!
Anyway, I'm saying all that because "expensive" is completely subjective especially if someone doesn't have a personal point of comparison (e.g. a cheap aluminum climber versus a quality made one).
A thousand bucks seems like a reasonable price point to me for the LWCG Crossover. Especially when I compare it to my basic Saddle Setup (and this doesn't even include all the extras I have stored in my dump pouches or affixed to the saddle (hooks, Doyle's, back band, suspenders, etc.)
| Price | Qty. | Total | |
| Cruzr XC Saddle | $ 260.00 | 1 | $ 260.00 |
| Tethrd SYS Hauler | $ 20.00 | 2 | $ 40.00 |
| 8mm Lineman's Rope | $ 75.00 | 1 | $ 75.00 |
| 8mm Tree Tether | $ 75.00 | 1 | $ 75.00 |
| Kong Duck Ascender | $ 63.00 | 2 | $ 126.00 |
| Skeletors | $ 225.00 | 1 | $ 225.00 |
| Predator XL Platform | $ 210.00 | 1 | $ 210.00 |
| Total | $ 1,011.00 |
I had one of those! You could barely maneuver through the woods with it, but dang it was comfortable comparatively at the time!!
I used to hunt public land with climbing stands. Hiked in many miles with a 30lb steel Summit. Then I upgraded to the Al Summit then an even lighter API Magnum climber. I paid 2-3x for the lighter aluminum climbers than I did the old steel Summit and it was worth every penny. I eventually bought a LWCG Hand Climber, which was 2x the API Magnum - and again worth the investment! You really can't appreciate the benefit of ultralight gear until you've carried a boat anchor around the steep MS River Bluffs!
Anyway, I'm saying all that because "expensive" is completely subjective especially if someone doesn't have a personal point of comparison (e.g. a cheap aluminum climber versus a quality made one).
A thousand bucks seems like a reasonable price point to me for the LWCG Crossover. Especially when I compare it to my basic Saddle Setup (and this doesn't even include all the extras I have stored in my dump pouches or affixed to the saddle (hooks, Doyle's, back band, suspenders, etc.)
Price Qty. Total Cruzr XC Saddle $ 260.00 $ 260.00 Tethrd SYS Hauler $ 20.00 $ 40.00 8mm Lineman's Rope $ 75.00 $ 75.00 8mm Tree Tether $ 75.00 $ 75.00 Kong Duck Ascender $ 63.00 $ 126.00 Skeletors $ 225.00 $ 225.00 Predator XL Platform $ 210.00 $ 210.00 Total $ 1,011.00
Paying 75$ for a linesman rope might be crazier than 1k for a climber. 8mm rope is 1.65 per foot on eastern woods outdoors.
Crazy is subjective. I'm an extravagant spender... I indulge in things like factory spliced eyes and SaddleHunter.com memberships.
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The sticks I have are hawk sticks, lol. Mostly not using them though other than using one for hanging trail cams back this summer.
Ordered. I use a G3D gear strap and usually hang my quiver from one of the hooks. Every once and awhile the wind will move my quiver around more than I like so hopefully this method will make it more stable. I also got the Tethrd quick draw and the G3D quick draw holster so my bow won’t move at all either.
Let us know what you think about it. With his current lead times, I’ll probably grab it next year