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I just watched a video from the ATA show that is showing XOP's new climber and they are calling the hand climber a climbing saddle platform, didn't hear if it can be bought separately or not?
 
Who is going back or has went back to a stand from a saddle? All these nice stands coming out
 
Robbo said:
Who is going back or has went back to a stand from a saddle? All these nice stands coming out
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I sold all my saddles in favor of the beast stand. In hindsight I regret selling them all as a stand isnt perfect for all situations. I will get another saddle this year but generally will use the stand 85% of the time
 
Samcirrus said:
Lol, they "talk" abt the noise, why not demonstrate it, like hit them together! Cmon! To be fair and with my carbon experience, they'll likely sound like 2 wooden sticks hitting each other.
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That's my hope, but I was also annoyed they didn't do it for us in the video. No matter how hard I try I still seem to clink my carabiner off a stick or one stick about every other trip out at least, so any less metal noise the better (well and getting better about woodsmanship and all that but this is a gear thread)
 
Plebe said:
And they said they were coming out with longer standoffs and metal steps for the C1/A1 sticks. Those items have't materialized yet.
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I've got 4 of their C1 sticks with the deeper standoffs...
 
RM2 said:
I've got 4 of their C1 sticks with the deeper standoffs...
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Nice. How did you come to get them? I've not seen that option on their online marketplace.
 
RM2 said:
I've got 4 of their C1 sticks with the deeper standoffs...
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How do I know if my are deep or original ? I've never noticed the depth being an issues but I'm only a giant in my own head :tearsofjoy: pretty sure size 10 boots will be ok on most anything
 
You can see the standoff depth is just over 4 inches. The only reason I stealth stripped them is because I was concerned about glare on sunny days.

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So they are going to shrink the seat to a smaller size and make it more uncomfortable…..has anyone sat on the original LW hand climber for a full day or even a 4-5hr sit? It’s not comfortable at all at least for me and most people I know. It would be nice if there was an option for the bigger seat.
 
roosterstraw said:
Unpopular opinion…I think I like the xop climber better than the lwcg. Only a 3lb difference and bigger platform. Still folds flat. Half the price.
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They need to hack that seat down so you have room to stand up…lol. It’s like having a lonewolf alpha base and using an assault as a seat.
 
enkriss said:
They need to hack that seat down so you have room to stand up…lol. It’s like having a lonewolf alpha base and using an assault as a seat.
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A touch overstated, but they say they are. The one shown was a prototype meant as a climbing platform.
 
Andrew said:
They state the top of the stand is designed to be a climbing saddle platform. 5 lbs. Pretty interesting.
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Unfortunately he stated it's a prototype and the final product will have a smaller seat. But, maybe there is hope for a climbing platform in the works?
 
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