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NutterBuster's 7oz Pocket Tether
- Thread starter Nutterbuster
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the maker of the buckle makes it in a wider design. You can do a search for 1.5 inch tubular webbing. I couldn't find any. the 1" tubular is stronger than the 1.5" flat webbing by a long shot so you will want to stick with tubular. your going to have some friction on the tree so I personally would say you are going to be close to that 4000 rating even with the knot. Just hanging from the saddle you shouldn't ever get enough slack to come close to that limit in a fall. Now if you one stick and don't tend your slack that may be a different story. Like @Nutterbuster said in his saddle overview video it works for him with his system. I would recommend you use something rated for the 23kn standard until you understand your system enough to make an educated decision on what will work for you and your system. If you change your system you need to reevaluate your safety items and determine if they still meet your needs.
You can use 2" flat webbing. It's generally stronger than 1"tubular, but must be stitched. There's a good selection of buckles available for it as well.
I'd say that @EricS' sugfestion to stick with something more conventional is also solid advise if you're new. Lits of premade options out there.
Like @pesqimon pointed out earlier it isn't autolocking like the ropeman. That means every time you put slack into your system you have two points to worry about when adding weight back into the system. the keep it simple approach says it's a bad idea,
@Nutterbuster I just watched your vid. That is some genius there! You really have me thinking about dumping my spliced tether. I just bought line to make a new set too. Uggh.
I'm by no means an expert but I do have some formal training in rock climbing. We always used to say that when you throw a knot into webbing or rope you cut it in half as far as strength goes.
I don't know if that's actually true exactly but it's one of those rules to live by type things.
I say that to mean that I don't think the Buckle is the weak point in the system. Wedding to wedding or rope to rope connections were also often considered a No-No because of abrasion concerns and friction Heat.
I would think the weak point would be where the wedding passes through itself, or one of the knots.
That being said, I wouldn't be concerned about it at all in this application. I'm definitely going to be doing this. It's a great setup!
When rock climbers talk about Dynamic Falls they're talking about dropping something like 10 ft. When using actual rock climbing gear in a saddle set up I wouldn't have any concerns as long as you're using the gear appropriately. How are you ever going to fall 10 feet out of a saddle?
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I don't know if that's actually true exactly but it's one of those rules to live by type things.
I say that to mean that I don't think the Buckle is the weak point in the system. Wedding to wedding or rope to rope connections were also often considered a No-No because of abrasion concerns and friction Heat.
I would think the weak point would be where the wedding passes through itself, or one of the knots.
That being said, I wouldn't be concerned about it at all in this application. I'm definitely going to be doing this. It's a great setup!
When rock climbers talk about Dynamic Falls they're talking about dropping something like 10 ft. When using actual rock climbing gear in a saddle set up I wouldn't have any concerns as long as you're using the gear appropriately. How are you ever going to fall 10 feet out of a saddle?
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Another climbing word to live by is make sure everything is backed up. I run another short Loop of webbing around the tree at about waist height with a little slack in it and connect that to my rock climbing harness. Essentially a a backup tether. If my tether fails I'm still hanging
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Nutterbuster you're a genius. Already ordered webbing and buckle. Cant wait to get rid of rope and knots. I just wish all this good info came out at once so I didn't have to keep ordering more. My saddle is worth about $ 500 now !!
@Nutterbuster in the video you tighten up with one hand, can you also loosen this with one hand? Or do you have to have tension on the tag end?
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I can't believe I never showed adjusting it out! It basically works like a ropeman in that you want to put slack in the system, adjust it, and then ease back down onto it. It's pretty intuitive, but make sure you practice at ground level and understand that it is not an auto-locking system.
Oh man... Saddle hunters crash another obscure piece of climbing gear...
I have been trying since I saw the video, actually I was not even finished the video! Lol great idea
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