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NutterBuster's 7oz Pocket Tether

GCTerpfan said:
If using the same rope as both a LB and a tether you still need another LB or some other means of staying attached to the tree while you transition from using the rope as a LB to a tether.
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Sure. Of course. I should have included that in my question/post. Point was, your backup LB could be something light like a tubular webbing piece so that you are at basically the same overall weight/bulk but have a more rigorous tether system. So my question still is, what advantages besides weight/bulk does the web/AA provide?

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TNSTAAFL said:
Sure. Of course. I should have included that in my question/post. Point was, your backup LB could be something light like a tubular webbing piece so that you are at basically the same overall weight/bulk but have a more rigorous tether system. So my question still is, what advantages besides weight/bulk does the web/AA provide?

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None, really. It's like carbon bolts. Cutting edge, but not for everyone. 7oz is half what most conventional tethers weigh, and if you keep the buckle on your bridge and skip the biner the webbing fits in a shirt pocket.

It's strong, but definitely not as robust as most options.
 
Nutterbuster said:
None, really. It's like carbon bolts. Cutting edge, but not for everyone. 7oz is half what most conventional tethers weigh, and if you keep the buckle on your bridge and skip the biner the webbing fits in a shirt pocket.

It's strong, but definitely not as robust as most options.
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Thanks for your clarity and honesty on that. You're a straight shooter and one of my more trusted idea guys on here for those reasons.

So it would seem that the "tale of the tape" for comparison purposes should be looking at the combined weight/bulk of LB & tether systems.

Even at the more cutting edge the consensus is you need at least one regular rope/biner (and probably a RM1). Where/how you use that rope is the question.

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TNSTAAFL said:
Thanks for your clarity and honesty on that. You're a straight shooter and one of my more trusted idea guys on here for those reasons.

So it would seem that the "tale of the tape" for comparison purposes should be looking at the combined weight/bulk of LB & tether systems.

Even at the more cutting edge the consensus is you need at least one regular rope/biner (and probably a RM1). Where/how you use that rope is the question.

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You can lighten up there easily enough - the issue is maintaining handling/usability.
 
I got mine yesterday. I'm liking it.

It's got a little bit of a rattle to it as there are some movable parts that are loose. Might have to tuck it into my waistband or something while walking to keep it from jingling.

I know everyone's always super cautious about suggesting anything for the sake of Safety, and of course anyone would have to test everything out themselves and verify safety for themselves.

That said, I don't really have any concerns with this thing being used with a platform with possible slack into the tether every once in awhile.

I did a little bit of jumping around on it at ground level and it seems to catch every time. No slipping. With a stopper knot in the tether below as extra precaution I'm not worried about it at all.

It does have some surprisingly thin pieces on it. But the company makes legit rock gear and I'm inclined to trust the weight ratings that are printed right on the buckle. Even when using a platform and attempting to twist around for an off side shot I'm never putting multiple feet of slack into the system. Definitely fits my comfort level. I like it. Thanks @Nutterbuster

** I also always run I rope around the tree at waste level clipped to a rock harness as backup for the tether so even if it did fail I'm still attached.
 
Picked one up recently and have been using it with my turkey saddle to give it a go. Love this thing! While it doesn’t lock I have found you have to be deliberate to get to release. Also tried the “slack” test and pleased how it chinches up. Great find!


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I'm not so concerned with weight as I am the bulk. I love this thing over my bulky rope. I do run my tag end down and water not to my saddle just for insurance. This site has awesome ideas .Just keep your credit card out. You're gonna need it often
 
My assesment so far after 12-15 sessions in the woods experimenting with different climbing methods and such; (on at least one of the days everything was wet, so it got the water treatment too): I'm sticking with the Nutterbuster kit. I went back to the rope tether for a few sessoins (with klemheist friction knot). Tried my old favorite treestand harness tether too, which is very seat-belt-like and has a fantastic buckle. In the end the Nutter buster kit won for its weight/size advantage. Also, I seemed to me that when girth hitched to the tree, the 1" tubular, even though it was quite floppy, "wanted" to stay put more than the other tether materials.

The only down-side (which is minor) is that the webbing wants to twist a bit sometimes as it enters the buckle

FWIW, I had a short section of thicker, stiffer webbing of unknown material (nylon? polypro?, polyester?) that came from an old treestand harness package. I don't remeber its purpose, but I think it has something to do with self-rescue, like a runner or something. Anyway, I found that the "twist" issue was resolved with that, it fed into the buckle very well. Unfortuantely, I couldn't expeiment much with it to see if it had negative ieffect a tyether material because it was too short. In due time I may see if I can identify the right stuff (stiffer, strong 1" web) and give it a workout; but for now I'm content.

Many thanks to Nutterbuster
 
bow shot said:
My assesment so far after 12-15 sessions in the woods experimenting with different climbing methods and such; (on at least one of the days everything was wet, so it got the water treatment too): I'm sticking with the Nutterbuster kit. I went back to the rope tether for a few sessoins (with klemheist friction knot). Tried my old favorite treestand harness tether too, which is very seat-belt-like and has a fantastic buckle. In the end the Nutter buster kit won for its weight/size advantage. Also, I seemed to me that when girth hitched to the tree, the 1" tubular, even though it was quite floppy, "wanted" to stay put more than the other tether materials.

The only down-side (which is minor) is that the webbing wants to twist a bit sometimes as it enters the buckle

FWIW, I had a short section of thicker, stiffer webbing of unknown material (nylon? polypro?, polyester?) that came from an old treestand harness package. I don't remeber its purpose, but I think it has something to do with self-rescue, like a runner or something. Anyway, I found that the "twist" issue was resolved with that, it fed into the buckle very well. Unfortuantely, I couldn't expeiment much with it to see if it had negative ieffect a tyether material because it was too short. In due time I may see if I can identify the right stuff (stiffer, strong 1" web) and give it a workout; but for now I'm content.

Many thanks to Nutterbuster
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Glad it's working for you!

Do be very careful switching webbing. Tubular is much stronger than any flat webbing I've ever encountered. I have never found a flat webbing that I would trust with my life.
 
Yes Sir... yup, I will invest serious research before committing to any alternative.
 
I have some rock and rescue tubular webbing. It’s a little stiffer and a different weave than blue water. It’s supposed to be climbing rated like the bluewater webbing I have come to trust. I’m still a little leery of it just because it’s a different weave and has a different feel than the bluewater but so far it has worked well as a tether and I haven’t had any of the twisting you mention. @Nutterbuster had something other than bluewater on his tether at saddlepalooza and it was like the larger weave of the rock and rescue.
 
I should mention that I have the basic mil spec webbing... it’s pretty slick and floppy.
 
Thinkin’ I’m into this. Wondered if anyone has used it with climbing with LW hand climber top or one stickin’?


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AntlerAddict76 said:
Thinkin’ I’m into this. Wondered if anyone has used it with climbing with LW hand climber top or one stickin’?


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I would not use it in that application. Too much potential to get slack in the system and twist the webbing inside the buckle. Plus, webbing sucks for moving up and down a tree trunk.
 
Nutterbuster said:
I would not use it in that application. Too much potential to get slack in the system and twist the webbing inside the buckle. Plus, webbing sucks for moving up and down a tree trunk.
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Been doing that. Adequate, but slow and annoying for the reasons given by ‘buster. Definitely prefer heavier cord for that
 
@Nutterbuster any reason why you're threading the bridge through the d-ring and not over the roller bar? Seems like your would get a smooth side to side movement over that roller bar.
 
skyjacker said:
@Nutterbuster any reason why you're threading the bridge through the d-ring and not over the roller bar? Seems like your would get a smooth side to side movement over that roller bar.
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Sorry for the late response. Not sure how that slipped by me.

You would maybe get smoother movement, but the d ring works great and is convenient. Try it out though. May work a charm. :)
 
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