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Official admit if you fell rope climbing thread.

My system that I keep returning to again is a cinched climbing line that doubles as a tether,a Roperunner, a foot ascender and a push stick that folds in 3rds. At height my platform is a Any Tree double step on a 3/16" Amsteel whoopie sling that also doubles as a resting place between iterations. I also use a linesman belt when moving climbing line upward. No slack able to rappell at any given time and nothing to fall off of. I also like my version of the 2tc but for ease and speed nothing faster for me than my cinched method. I climb on a hank of 11mm Phantom with a spliced eye using a Knotch Quickie. With the price of sticks,platforms and saddles my expenditure on my gear doesn't seem so much. So sad some will never know the joy of a truly great , controlled and crazy if desired rappell!
 
My system that I keep returning to again is a cinched climbing line that doubles as a tether,a Roperunner, a foot ascender and a push stick that folds in 3rds. At height my platform is an Any Tree double step on a 3/16" Amsteel whoopie sling that also doubles as a resting place between iterations. I also use a linesman belt when moving climbing line upward. No slack able to rappell at any given time and nothing to fall off of. I also like my version of the 2tc but for ease and speed nothing faster for me than my cinched method. I climb on a hank of 11mm Phantom with a spliced eye using a Knotch Quickie. With the price of sticks,platforms and saddles my expenditure on my gear doesn't seem so much. So sad some will never know the joy of a truly great , controlled and crazy if desired rappell!
Did you ever make a video of this method once you had it more refined? When you said quick what is your average time from bottom of the tree to hunting hieght 15, 18, 22’ etc. I think about trying using some push up poles again since the Garda footloop allows me to ascend the same way I rope climb. If I set the rope 10’ each time then it would just be two sets and and two mini rope climbs so to speak.
 
Depends if you drag it up or open and close around each ring of branches. All our pines here start branch rings at about 10 feet so it'd be the same amount of redoing your tether no matter what climbing method you have besides any of the 3 long rope climbs. I only ever climb a pine tree with 2TC once, then it gets a preset.
So the diameter of the trunk makes a difference then? Large diameter trunk for me much more difficult to not drag the rope
 
I will time the latest version but I would venture to say I can be somewhere between 18'-20' in several minutes and rigged to hunt in a relatively short time. The double strap/ whoopie travels right up the tree and isn't secured by the strap until hunting height is reached. I can push the rope up high enough that even when in strap very little if no slack is introduced into the system. At height hang pack, deploy Drey Mini pull up bow- connected to end of climbing line. My pull up rope doubles as a climbing line retrieval and a bow lowering line if desired..
 
So the diameter of the trunk makes a difference then? Large diameter trunk for me much more difficult to not drag the rope
Oh absolutely. The larger the trunk, the more likely drag. However, when 2TC a pine, spruce, fir tree, I almost never drag because I undo each tether as I go over each branch ring.
 
I am getting the feeling you do not like sticks!
Had a wild swing on one of my first 2TC climbs. My toe grab in the foot tether slipped on smooth bark and I swung out far of the tree trunk. I steadied myself by flailing and grabbing the trunk with my arms. Definitely a pucker moment. If I would’ve fallen, it could’ve been sketchy because I might’ve gone down sideways or tipping towards inverted. Yes, the upper tether would’ve grabbed soon but I was climbing on my rappel line with a quick link; the weight of that hardware even with a stopper makes it want to slide down the tree when unloaded, as it is when a 2TCer steps into the foot tether. I got sorted out, sat down for a good nervous sweat, and then continued.

This might never have been risky if I’d have used a rappel line pulled through a tied knot eye instead of a quick link (yeah, annoying as that is), or a typical rope tether not prone to falling down, or had a better stopper than a rubber washer. I hear a bungee ball works great to keep everything snug.

My point is @tailgunner even though it’s arguably a lot safer than many other climbing methods, 2TC is not bulletproof. I think this experience showed me even 2TC can have varying degrees of risk depending on your gear choice.
Did you get gouged on your stick?
 
If this is to much for my dude ...that makes sence.he thinks a tropical paridise is hard

October 22, 2023 / phatkaw's adventures
without even trying my dude makes it look fast easy and quiet....huh....weird....no crying its hard
 
Did you get gouged on your stick?
Dude you can't read. One more time. It was not the stick. I was using a non approved /untested attachment method. Something I dreamed up. You cannot expect the stick to stay attached to the tree without attaching the stick to the tree.
I started using Lone Wold sticks around 95. I have never has a LW stick issue. Never a kick out, never had one come loose, nothing but solid climbs.
 
That's the deal breaker on t2c for me ...I don't care for advancing a tether
I understand your position, but besides the use of only a lineman's belt (which has it's risk) wouldn't you have to advance a tether in stick climbing, 1-stick climbing, or any other climbing method besides SRT/SDRT/JRB....?
 
I fell rope climbing. No fault of the method, I know where I went wrong. Came down hard from fairly high a few years ago at the SW PA meet up that I was hosting. Broke my right heel and femur, and L1 in my back. I'm back at it and climbing again. Shot a decent buck last year using my saddle out of a hang on stand. This will be the first season I dedicate to the saddle full time.
 
Jamie and Robert build thier saddle the way they do for a reason.both good dudes with a conssiance that couldnt live with thier selves if someone got hurt.i dont have the stress of not knowing the qualifications of a customer...i make my stuff for my specifications wich are not average.im trained to risk my life effectively without injuries..my stuff is not built like a tank but i understand compleatly every components exspectations and limits without guessing.
How did I understand this? :innocent:
 
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