Pods

[woodsdog2]

Also, Kevorkian's Prescription Medicide raises questions way more interesting than what we're allowed to talk about here. I still don't know what I think of the dude. I was kinda shocked my uni library had a copy lying around.

I think he was ahead of his time in many ways.

 

[SaddleUpPartner!]

What next, people hunting pigs out of helicopt…oh wait. I’d never heard of pods until this post, very interesting to say the least. I suppose it would be more lethal but it’s kind of taking the fair chase aspect out of it for archery in particular. I can ethically catch more fish with dynamite too but it doesn’t mean we should do it.

 

[Nutterbuster]

I think he was ahead of his time in many ways.

I generally agree with him on paper, and am glad he started or at least popularized some important discussions.

After reading up on his lawsuit, I have misgivings about some of his patient interactions, which seemed to not mesh with his published recommendations.

 

[Plebe]

What happens when pod shot deer run onto neighboring property. Is the right to pursue (collect) any different?

 

[Weldabeast]

Totally unrelated but reminds me of when the ethics of clubbing baby seals was questioned..... Shoot, stab, electrocute, etc testing and lots and lots of money spent just to conclude that a club to the head was the most humane

 

[kyler1945]

What happens when pod shot deer run onto neighboring property. Is the right to pursue (collect) any different?

They don’t. Usually.

 

[cville_bowhunter]

Man, I should have made some popcorn before I read this thread!

I think the pro pod argument is an interesting one, but I don't think I can hop on board for two reasons:

1- Even if it is ok to eat, I have mental hangups about eating something that was killed with poison. I just don't think I could actually enjoy a meal without worrying about some sort of weird side effect.

2- I can't speak for everyone here, but I enjoy using archery equipment to hunt because it is harder. To that point, it is unnecessarily harder in comparison to the use of modern firearms. So, I am, on purpose, going about killing an animal in an unnecessarily difficult manner; why, then, would I want the kind of insurance that comes with using pods? I want to kill the animal because my skill allowed me to do so; I want whatever deer I kill to be a tangible "prize" for all of the effort that goes into archery hunting. If I screw up and wound or lose an animal, I want to learn that hard lesson and let that moment of failure fuel my future practice and shot awareness so it never happens again. I think that fear of a bad shot is a great motivator to practice practice practice, and I worry that using pods would take away the incentive to be an effective archery hunter.

I would rather see an extended rifle season than an archery season with pods.

 

[kyler1945]

Anectine stops a heart from building pressure and delivering oxygenated blood to the brain, and lungs from expanding to bring oxygen in/expel the bad stuff.

So does a razor sharp arrow.

Poison is not a good descriptor. Poison = game changer/I have a secret/comfort channels. Let it go.

 

[Plebe]

Do they make them for fishing hooks too?

 

[Weldabeast]

Do they make them for fishing hooks too?

That's called monkey fishing around here

 

[John 35]

How about pods mixed in with the corn pile? Wack ‘‘em and stack ‘em baby!

 

[DroptineKrazy]

I'll tell you guys what I think about this subject. I think old nutter and kyle are getting soft in their old age with reflecting on becoming dads and all. What in the heck happened with the stone cold killers I fell in love with on this forum? What's next? Just using tranquilizers on our arrows so that if we feel bad for shooting the little bitty animals we can just revive them and set them free? Or maybe some would go the other way and measure the rack to see if it was wall worthy. Would we want that? Just leave things alone guys. I have enough of a job filling my tags now without worrying about "Poisonous arrows"

 

[neonomad]

I think you’re missing the point. I can’t speak for him, but I can tell you no one accusing you of anything. We’re just pointing out what’s obvious to people who study this, and anyone who thinks seriously about it for five minutes.

And I firmly include myself in the silly behavior. No one’s above it. It’s our humanity. I don’t think I’m better for being able to admit it to myself. But it sure is freeing to be open to it.

Could there be some other factors at work, how about - in the case of hunting - the reward system tied into “yay we get to eat something now”? Also, I think this is the second time I’ve mentioned it, but I kinda buy into some elements of terror management theory, the idea that we latch onto stuff with a fervor to keep our brains occupied with something other than mortal terror. Man I just don’t know if people plant wildflowers or build small scale electric train landscapes in the basement for deep rooted approval seeking, but I could definitely see wanting to occupy one’s times productively and through many different things sedate the mind with distraction and some illusions of immortality. Grand distractions probably have an evolutionary purpose in terms of sanity. But I agree, if a feller were to take the position that we have no Dominion (capital D) over the beasts, minimizing suffering seems to follow. Won’t weigh in on pods because I think the public would poo poo it regardless of the merits, but I’d use em if I could and it was proven they’re completely safe for post grip and grin consumption. As for empathy, I still believe it would be a more interesting conversation once we’ve each taken a Spitfire in the glute with no medical attention allowed.

 

[Tr33_n1nj@]

Tide Pod broadheads???Millenials… SMH.

Also anxiously awaiting videos of the “Pod Broadhead Challenge”.

 

[C_FL_HNTR]

This is a very interesting topic and like most of us this was the first time I've ever heard of such a thing. I can sympathize with both sides on the use of PODS however to be honest I have terrible luck with sharp objects so it would be a hard pass in my bag of hunting tools.

 

[ThePennsylvanian]

so I say nay, i dont oppose their use. I would like to know how the toxin effects the meat but I'm 100% on board with this method of increasing one's ability to recover a deer. From what i gathered it extremely effective, and even grazing hits will result in a downed deer. Think of how mamy animals are fatally hit and never recovered, I personally an acount for 5 in my life time, all but one of which would have at that time been my largest bucks taken....... and a potential state record.... I fully understand that it was my failures that caused that not some short coming of the law that prevented my use of a toxon.... but that said, I still wasted those deer as none of them were recovered....

 

[Weldabeast]

The only utubes I saw when l search pods was a guy shooting and elk in the guts in the daylight and next clip is dark and a dead elk....wasn't very informative

 

[brydan]

From what i gathered it extremely effective, and even grazing hits will result in a downed deer

Has to be a solid enough hit to get some penetration. The pod itself sits behind the broadhead so it has to get in deep enough to roll the rubber cover back far enough to dump the contents into the bloodstream

 

[rambotogo]

This is a very interesting topic and like most of us this was the first time I've ever heard of such a thing. I can sympathize with both sides on the use of PODS however to be honest I have terrible luck with sharp objects so it would be a hard pass in my bag of hunting tools.

Yep , I can see me poding myself .

 

[brydan]

The only utubes I saw when l search pods was a guy shooting and elk in the guts in the daylight and next clip is dark and a dead elk....wasn't very informative

Utube isn't going to be much help because the number of people still using them is probably in the hundreds at this point and has been that way since way before utube was around.