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Ropeman Safety

flinginairos said:
Ropemans all around. Buy two for sure lol. I tie a simple knot in the end as a “stopper” knot so it won’t slide through somehow. They are very easy to use and a must have item for saddle hunting imo


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Awesome! Thank God for Amazon gift cards!
 
I just used my new ropeman 1 on my linesman belt. All I can is wow. A lot more control. I know a mechanical failure can happen, but that being said I may have to Just back it up with another ropeman. :relaxed:

I felt like a had a lot more control, it was relaxing not to have fight with the Blake’s Hitch.
 
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Question:

Since the Ropeman is spring loaded and is what keeps the tension on the cam, do you all take the Ropeman of your rope and caribener after using it?

Just seems like it would be a good thing to do
 
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bigjoe said:
Question:

Since the Ropeman is spring loaded and what keeps the tension on the cam, do you all take the Ropeman of your rope and caribener after using it?

Just seems like it would be a good thing to do
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the spring keeps the tension when its unloaded. All taking it off will do is increase the likeliness of you forgetting to put it back on and you being SOL at your hunting spot.

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bigjoe said:
Question:

Since the Ropeman is spring loaded and what keeps the tension on the cam, do you all take the Ropeman of your rope and caribener after using it?

Just seems like it would be a good thing to do
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Never have. Not for the 2 or 3 years I’ve been using it.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
I am not a long time saddle hunter and only have knowledge of some of our equipment because my grown children rock climb and ice climb at a fairly high level. They want to keep their dad safe so I ask them questions.

I trust my bridge. I have a fixed bridge made with 9 mm ultra tech. It is rated for I think 8000 pounds. When I first started two years ago I felt the same as you about redundancies and being tethered multiple times. With very little time and practice you become confident in your equipment so that you minimize those redundancies. Some of which are unnecessary.
A prussic on the end of your tree tether is not a bad idea. I do use a ropeman 1 on 9 mm ultra tech rope but it is not recommended so I do go beyond the standards set by the makers of the ropeman 1. I do have a prussic at the bottom of my tether though for backup. Many others do too. I may try an adjustable bridge on a ropeman with a petzl ring like Ernie spoke about for my bridge.

Many use a sit drag without a rock climbing harness. I would be reluctant to do that. Some feel it is a small risk. Probably less risky than sitting in a ladder stand without a harness - many people do that fall asleep and get badly hurt.

If you are unsure about things, use an aerohunter which is super safe until you feel confident. I think the worst that could happen is a slip with your linemans belt attached to the tree which would probably scrape you up.

You will gain confidence as you use your equipment. I do not think it is very likely that we would have long falls that would put great stresses on our equipment. I know my son has fallen rock climbing several feet... 10 feet or more when lead climbing but his equipment is designed to handle that stress.I cannot see us falling that far if we use our equipment properly.

My disclaimer. I am not an expert at all - this is just what I have learned from others on this site and from my kids and from my limited experience. So I am speaking as a fairly new hunter and saddle hunter. Because of this I can certainly relate to your fears. My age 59 years old makes me cautious too. Caution will be reduced with confidence in your equipment. Practice.
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Wow man...I am 61 and new hunter and just bought a New Tribe Kestrel in Fall if 2017. I didn’t hunt with it though as I need practice first with my wild edge steps etc before hunting in it...


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USSHornet said:
Wow man...I am 61 and new hunter and just bought a New Tribe Kestrel in Fall if 2017. I didn’t hunt with it though as I need practice first with my wild edge steps etc before hunting in it...


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Wise man.

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DwadeCham said:
Here is the pic. Not a lot of leftover. Not sure how close you want to make it. I have a micro pulley on it to make it more one handed. You can easily make your tether longer with one hand without the pulley. To shorten it still requires two. But this thing doesn't bind at all like a Blake's hitch. If I can I will make a video.
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DwadeCham said:
Here is the pic. Not a lot of leftover. Not sure how close you want to make it. I have a micro pulley on it to make it more one handed. You can easily make your tether longer with one hand without the pulley. To shorten it still requires two. But this thing doesn't bind at all like a Blake's hitch. If I can I will make a video.
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Are you using this set up on both your lineman's rope and tether?

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TheTracker said:
You're safe with a ropeman 1 if you pay attention to it and make sure all the slack is out of it, You'd be safer with a friction hitch like a schwabish with 8mm bee line cord hands down. Ive been using 10mm bee line on my linemens belt with a distel hitch and a micro pulley to tend it.

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What are you using on your tether?
 
TheTracker said:
Rock exotica omniblock 1.1 petzl ok biner, 8mm bee line tied in a schwabish friction hitch.

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If it's not too much trouble, could you post a pic of the set up and explain how the omniblock is used in the system. I am in the process of buying equipment and while I know there will be some experimentation I am hoping I can do it in one try.
 



I have not used it on my tether; I am using a micro-pulley on my lineman lanyard


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In tree climbing, if one is footlocking with a hand ascender, a backup prusik is required. However, if the prusik is located below the ascender and there is a failure to engage the line, the ascender will slide down the rope and take the prusik with them. (The same way you slide the prusik by hand.) For this reason, the prusik must be placed above the ascender. I'll post a photo illustrating the system. I'm bringing this up because so many use a ropeman on their tether. A prusik below it won't stop a fall. A stopper knot on the end of the tether would, however.

Okay, for some reason, I can't find the illustration I was looking for. I am posting a photo of a long prusik loop similar to what I used with ascenders. If anyone needs more of an explanation, let me know. I'll find an illustration, or just make one myself.
 
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TonyGreenway said:
Just a thought...
In tree climbing, if one is footlocking with a hand ascender, a backup prusik is required. However, if the prusik is located below the ascender and there is a failure to engage the line, the ascender will slide down the rope and take the prusik with them. (The same way you slide the prusik by hand.) For this reason, the prusik must be placed above the ascender. I'll post a photo illustrating the system. I'm bringing this up because so many use a ropeman on their tether. A prusik below it won't stop a fall. A stopper knot on the end of the tether would, however.

Okay, for some reason, I can't find the illustration I was looking for. I am posting a photo of a long prusik loop similar to what I used with ascenders. If anyone needs more of an explanation, let me know. I'll find an illustration, or just make one myself.
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Forgive my newbie question but what if you connect the prussik under the Ropeman 1 with a carabiner like this?

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Would this work well as a backup to the Ropeman?
 
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