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Rules For Thee Not For Me (Outlaw Thread)

LAKY said:
Why not call local law enforcement to let them know you want to enter someone else's property to look for a deer you shot? Just tell them if they can't locate the owner to give you permission, you fully intend on breaking the law.
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Here in Duluth, I participate in the city hunt and when a deer crosses into someone's property that they don't give you permission to enter, you can call a police and they have the State's right to escort you to retrieve the State's property (deer). A landowner has no right, here, to stop you if you are accompanied by a cop or state trooper.
 
Iron_llama said:
OnX, Huntstand, etc., don't have their own databases of landowners. They slurp up publicly-available taxpayer and survey info from the relevant County (and in some cases, state) agencies. In MN, pretty much every county has a GIS department, usually (but not always) within the surveyor's office, with publicly-available online maps. So, this would be the "system of record". If your county doesn't have an online map, you can pop down to the county offices - usually at the county courthouse - with the addresses or coordinates of the properties in question, and figure out who is responsible for paying the taxes on that property. Every property record I've ever looked up (in MN) has both mailing address and phone number listed. It's usually the landowner, but sometimes landowners will establish a trust or LLC to hold the land and thereby preserve their privacy, in which case you will have a few extra steps.
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I don't have to use any special app, because St Louis County has a free, yearly updated property map/app that has GPS included! Just no phone numbers, only tax mailing addresses.
 
Retrieving your downed animal...IF you do NOT attempt to, it is called "Wonton Waste".

Wanton waste laws require hunters to salvage all or the majority of edible meat from the animals they kill. At a minimum, most states require that hunters retain the four quarters and loins from big game animals.
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NOW IF a land owner does NOT allow you to retrieve it and allows it to lay and rot...THEY can be charged with it....in SOME States.

Also, here in Maryland...land does NOT have to be posted to prosecute for trespassing...double edged sword.
 
Weldabeast said:
What do u mean? Transporting with an arrow nocked?
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No, pretty sure we're supposed to have any of our weapons in a case of some sort, unloaded ( duh ). Or otherwise not easily accessible. I or er uhm those crazies I know just put the bow in the back seat and call it good enough
 
Horn said:
How many of you scofflaws transport your bow without a case? :fearscream: super reckless of.. those other guys I know
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I always travel with my bow case locked, my bow lock on it (so there can be no children that can shoot it), and the bow case is cable locked to the frame of my truck. You can never be too safe these days.
 
Horn said:
No, pretty sure we're supposed to have any of our weapons in a case of some sort, unloaded ( duh ). Or otherwise not easily accessible. I or er uhm those crazies I know just put the bow in the back seat and call it good enough
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I had a friend once who had a broken zipper on his case right near one end. The CO that checked him was citing him for having an uncased weapon in the vehicle. As my friend argued that the case was almost completely zipped up and the zipper was broken the CO replied "You could have bought a heck of a case for what this will cost you." as he handed him the citation. Words I have taken to heart from that point on and made sure my weapons were completely cased in the vehicle as required.
 
I don’t case my bow it just mounts behind the seat with the special seat covers I have, guns just sit there also but not loaded. If a warden thinks I’m going to go through the hassle of stopping and undoing my bow then drawing on a deer before I stop to walk in and hunt he’s off his rocker. And to the guy with the broken zipper if I would’ve got a ticket for that Bs I would’ve took him to court 100% and won that one. Garbage call imo.
 
Horn said:
How many of you scofflaws transport your bow without a case? :fearscream: super reckless of.. those other guys I know
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I have a case for my compound that gets used for travel from home to hunt location but not during the hunt. It goes in the back seat then. No case for the longbow.
 
Yeah, I have a bow soft case for rides 2 and from the house but once im in the woods i set my bow in the passenger seat...same with a rifle. I unload and throw it in the passenger seat. At the end of the day when it's time to leave everything gets stowed correctly
 
boyne bowhunter said:
I had a friend once who had a broken zipper on his case right near one end. The CO that checked him was citing him for having an uncased weapon in the vehicle. As my friend argued that the case was almost completely zipped up and the zipper was broken the CO replied "You could have bought a heck of a case for what this will cost you." as he handed him the citation. Words I have taken to heart from that point on and made sure my weapons were completely cased in the vehicle as required.
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I used to volunteer to help teach the hunter safety classes in my old town. One of the COs gave the advice to keep a roll-up case in your pack. In MN, when you buy a long gun they give you a Tyvek gun sock; with a bow a suitably-sized pillow case or trash bag would serve the same purpose to keep you legal in the event you wind up hitchhiking back to your truck or something.
 
Weldabeast said:
Yeah, I have a bow soft case for rides 2 and from the house but once im in the woods i set my bow in the passenger seat...same with a rifle. I unload and throw it in the passenger seat. At the end of the day when it's time to leave everything gets stowed correctly
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That'd get you a ticket for sure here in Michigan! :tearsofjoy:
 
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