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Sewing Machine Deals for the DIY Guys

Its Bernie said:
Not for saddles, but for pouches, straps, and stuff like that. I know its an older machine, but really am not very savvy in the sewing department. But someone gave me this one so I am going to try and learn.
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It should easily work for that stuff. I'm not familiar with that model. I thought I saw that they still have a manual for it on juki website. Otherwise I'm sure there might be something on YouTube about that model. Doing webbing might be a little much for it but give it a go.

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Its Bernie said:
Not for saddles, but for pouches, straps, and stuff like that. I know its an older machine, but really am not very savvy in the sewing department. But someone gave me this one so I am going to try and learn.
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You got that for free? Good for you! The dln 5410 is a needle feed machine ( both needle and feed dogs transport the material ).

They are not good for heavy duty sewing. That said, they are supposed to be good for sewing slippery materials, e.g., silnylon and silpoly. Myog sewers that sew ultralight stuff tend to gravitate towards needle feed machines.

That dln-5410 and a nice triple feed and you will have all you need for any myog outdoors fabrication.
 
sojourner said:
You got that for free? Good for you! The dln 5410 is a needle feed machine ( both needle and feed dogs transport the material ).

They are not good for heavy duty sewing. That said, they are supposed to be good for sewing slippery materials, e.g., silnylon and silpoly. Myog sewers that sew ultralight stuff tend to gravitate towards needle feed machines.

That dln-5410 and a nice triple feed and you will have all you need for any myog outdoors fabrication.
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I have the manual, it says DLN-5410N, I do not know if that is different model from the one without the N. It came with a huge table thats 3'x5'. Two boxes of webbing and various buckles. It has the large spool holder and a bunch of other stuff. I am just learning to sew at the ripe age of 52, and its kind of intimidating.

What kind of thread do I need to sew some strapping? I have some friends that make stuff all the time, but have been waiting for them to teach me for 6 months. So I guess the learning will be trial and error.
 
Its Bernie said:
I have the manual, it says DLN-5410N, I do not know if that is different model from the one without the N. It came with a huge table thats 3'x5'. Two boxes of webbing and various buckles. It has the large spool holder and a bunch of other stuff. I am just learning to sew at the ripe age of 52, and its kind of intimidating.

What kind of thread do I need to sew some strapping? I have some friends that make stuff all the time, but have been waiting for them to teach me for 6 months. So I guess the learning will be trial and error.
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A lot of good stuff out there on YouTube (Jerry Grose member here, jellyfish, Jason of all trades, professor pincushion, and Sailrite are a few I've watched). I buy my thread and needles from threadexchange.com. I would think size 69 thread would work fine through that machine. I can't find maximum needle size for the machine though.

Materials can be found at Eastern woods outdoors, ripstopbytheroll, and Dutchwaregear are where I get most of my materials.

Start with something easy like a stuff sack to get your feet wet. Ripstobytheroll had a nice video on how to make them.

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Its Bernie said:
I have the manual, it says DLN-5410N, I do not know if that is different model from the one without the N. It came with a huge table thats 3'x5'. Two boxes of webbing and various buckles. It has the large spool holder and a bunch of other stuff. I am just learning to sew at the ripe age of 52, and its kind of intimidating.

What kind of thread do I need to sew some strapping? I have some friends that make stuff all the time, but have been waiting for them to teach me for 6 months. So I guess the learning will be trial and error.
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N is standard weight and I believe NH is heavyweight. I believe one can convert from one to the other with the correct parts. Yours is most likely the N version.

The 5410 has an oil pump that lubricates during sewing. If you sew slow you might want to think about running full speed without thread or needle and presser feet lifted for a few minutes at the beginning of every sewing session to get the oil through the machine.

For myog creations, it is either bonded polyester or bonded nylon. I get mine at wawak.com (Amann brand: serabond and strongbond). V69/T70 (two ways of identifying same thread) would be where I would start. Guys with triple/unison feed machines can use up to T135 thread.

Most guys prefer bonded nylon. I tend towards bonded polyester.

Thread sizes chart

Needle and Thread Size Chart - Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines

Bonded nylon or polyester thread specifications chart with corresponding minimum needle sizes
www.tolindsewmach.com www.tolindsewmach.com

Link for thread and needle size (it is a pdf download)

www.wawak.com

Tex 70 Amann Strongbond Nylon Bonded Thread | WAWAK

Shop for Amann Strongbond Nylon Bonded Thread. Tex 70. Great for heavy-duty seams. Ideal for handbags, leather goods, and shoes. Free shipping on orders of $99+, order from WAWAK today!
www.wawak.com www.wawak.com

Based on above link, if you use T70 bonded nylon, it is recommended size 18 through 21 needles.

Sewing webbing loops

www.sailrite.com

How to Sew Webbing Loops

Sewn loops on webbing are used in a variety of load bearing applications.
www.sailrite.com www.sailrite.com

You would want to ensure the machine is properly setup/timed. You can take to a sewing machine mechanic or find a service manual and do it yourself.

Enjoy!
 
sojourner said:
N is standard weight and I believe NH is heavyweight. I believe one can convert from one to the other with the correct parts. Yours is most likely the N version.

The 5410 has an oil pump that lubricates during sewing. If you sew slow you might want to think about running full speed without thread or needle and presser feet lifted for a few minutes at the beginning of every sewing session to get the oil through the machine.

For myog creations, it is either bonded polyester or bonded nylon. I get mine at wawak.com (Amann brand: serabond and strongbond). V69/T70 (two ways of identifying same thread) would be where I would start. Guys with triple/unison feed machines can use up to T135 thread.

Most guys prefer bonded nylon. I tend towards bonded polyester.

Thread sizes chart

Needle and Thread Size Chart - Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines

Bonded nylon or polyester thread specifications chart with corresponding minimum needle sizes
www.tolindsewmach.com www.tolindsewmach.com

Link for thread and needle size (it is a pdf download)

www.wawak.com

Tex 70 Amann Strongbond Nylon Bonded Thread | WAWAK

Shop for Amann Strongbond Nylon Bonded Thread. Tex 70. Great for heavy-duty seams. Ideal for handbags, leather goods, and shoes. Free shipping on orders of $99+, order from WAWAK today!
www.wawak.com www.wawak.com

Based on above link, if you use T70 bonded nylon, it is recommended size 18 through 21 needles.

Sewing webbing loops

www.sailrite.com

How to Sew Webbing Loops

Sewn loops on webbing are used in a variety of load bearing applications.
www.sailrite.com www.sailrite.com

You would want to ensure the machine is properly setup/timed. You can take to a sewing machine mechanic or find a service manual and do it yourself.

Enjoy!
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Thank you both for the replies. There is so much information out there.
 
@sojourner and others of the know
Juki ddl 555 handle multiple layers of webbing and a decent deal at $400 with nice table
 
Boomah21 said:
@sojourner and others of the know
Juki ddl 555 handle multiple layers of webbing and a decent deal at $400 with nice table
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It is a garment machine with drop feed (single feed from feed dogs), not suitable for what you are looking to use it for.

Used Consew 226, Juki 562, Juki 563, Consew 206 and all associated clones are all triple/ unison feed and would be on the more inexpensive side that would meet your requirements.
 
sojourner said:
[mention]jhunter13 [/mention] knows what he speaks about.

Your next one is on the horizon. And I’ll give you a reason. One machine is to be used for regular sewing and one is to be used with attachments as a machine to do binding.
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Don't listen to @sojourner - he will get you addicted!! I convinced him to buy one 15-91 a few years ago and now he has more machines than I do...lol
 
sojourner said:
9 Juki 563’s available at $350 each. Lockport, NY

buffalo.craigslist.org

Multiple Heavy Duty Sewing Machines - heavy equipment - by owner - sale - craigslist

All machines are sold as is and will need to be removed and transported by the buyer. Buyer would need to remove and transport but I can connect you with a transportation company that is familiar...
buffalo.craigslist.org

If it wasn’t 5 hours away for me, I’d be picking up a couple.
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Wish I would have seen this back in December or even a month ago, I work around that area a lot. Isn’t posted anymore.
 
pchunterpa said:
Wish I would have seen this back in December or even a month ago, I work around that area a lot. Isn’t posted anymore.
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Bummer. Keep looking. Deals come up periodically on the Juki 563, 562 and related consew 226. Good luck.
 
Consew 206-RB1, $500, Harrisburg, PA

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No pic of front of machine. That said, it might be worth taking a look at.
 
Consew 206-RB-3, $300, Philadelphia suburbs (Glenolden, PA)
Just listed.

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If it weren’t currently hunting season, I would pick it up to restore and flip at a profit.

Looks like a decent deal, with a need for a tension unit, feet (both cheap) and possibly a motor ( $100 for an eBay servo)
 
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