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Simplified Wild Edge Knot

Ya, that is solid. You have any other videos that are going to help me out like this!
 
boyne bowhunter said:

This is a simplified method to make the knot which secures the Wild Edge steps to the tree. For me it really speeds up the time it takes to attach the steps. The final knot has exactly the same wraps as the traditional but using this approach eliminated the need to feed and pull the tag end of the rope thru the loops. I have the 8 foot ropes on my steps and found that in course of pulling the rope thru it often twisted and I would need to stop and straighten it out before pulling the knot tight. This seems to eliminate that twist.

This especially helps for installing the steps above your head if you're using the Wild Edge aider or the climbing method @Cain posted previously. Since the step is over your head pulling the loop down and thru is easy.

In fact I have to give credit to Cain for the inspiration for this when he demonstrated his knot untie method. I decided if you could untie by removing a single loop you should be able to tie in the reverse process. That's what this method does.

Hope this helps.
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boyne bowhunter said:

This is a simplified method to make the knot which secures the Wild Edge steps to the tree. For me it really speeds up the time it takes to attach the steps. The final knot has exactly the same wraps as the traditional but using this approach eliminated the need to feed and pull the tag end of the rope thru the loops. I have the 8 foot ropes on my steps and found that in course of pulling the rope thru it often twisted and I would need to stop and straighten it out before pulling the knot tight. This seems to eliminate that twist.

This especially helps for installing the steps above your head if you're using the Wild Edge aider or the climbing method @Cain posted previously. Since the step is over your head pulling the loop down and thru is easy.

In fact I have to give credit to Cain for the inspiration for this when he demonstrated his knot untie method. I decided if you could untie by removing a single loop you should be able to tie in the reverse process. That's what this method does.

Hope this helps.
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I have never had a problem with tying the knot but that looks pretty neat . I'll have to give it a try.
 
boyne bowhunter said:

This is a simplified method to make the knot which secures the Wild Edge steps to the tree. For me it really speeds up the time it takes to attach the steps. The final knot has exactly the same wraps as the traditional but using this approach eliminated the need to feed and pull the tag end of the rope thru the loops. I have the 8 foot ropes on my steps and found that in course of pulling the rope thru it often twisted and I would need to stop and straighten it out before pulling the knot tight. This seems to eliminate that twist.

This especially helps for installing the steps above your head if you're using the Wild Edge aider or the climbing method @Cain posted previously. Since the step is over your head pulling the loop down and thru is easy.

In fact I have to give credit to Cain for the inspiration for this when he demonstrated his knot untie method. I decided if you could untie by removing a single loop you should be able to tie in the reverse process. That's what this method does.

Hope this helps.
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Just try it and it works great. It is so simple glade you showed us the video .
 
This is really awesome. I finally got pretty good at the knot but I think hanging in the air in the dark this is going to be a much better way to put the steps on the tree.

Got to try it out yesterday. Thanks for sharing.

Wade

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just got my set of steps with the aider so now i have to try this. thanks for the video
 
boyne bowhunter said:

This is a simplified method to make the knot which secures the Wild Edge steps to the tree. For me it really speeds up the time it takes to attach the steps. The final knot has exactly the same wraps as the traditional but using this approach eliminated the need to feed and pull the tag end of the rope thru the loops. I have the 8 foot ropes on my steps and found that in course of pulling the rope thru it often twisted and I would need to stop and straighten it out before pulling the knot tight. This seems to eliminate that twist.

This especially helps for installing the steps above your head if you're using the Wild Edge aider or the climbing method @Cain posted previously. Since the step is over your head pulling the loop down and thru is easy.

In fact I have to give credit to Cain for the inspiration for this when he demonstrated his knot untie method. I decided if you could untie by removing a single loop you should be able to tie in the reverse process. That's what this method does.

Hope this helps.
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I wonder why nobody else thought of that... way easier than pulling a rope through. Wild Edge owes you a sales commission.
 
There was actually a fella who used the same technique only "backwards" to UNTIE the knot and loop it like the setup in the video here. Serendipity to be sure and greatly appreciated.


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jryser said:
There was actually a fella who used the same technique only "backwards" to UNTIE the knot and loop it like the setup in the video here. Serendipity to be sure and greatly appreciated.


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That’s the Cain mentioned in the original post as far as I know. His method of climbing with the stepps is top notch!
 
jryser said:
There was actually a fella who used the same technique only "backwards" to UNTIE the knot and loop it like the setup in the video here. Serendipity to be sure and greatly appreciated.
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Babshaft said:
That’s the Cain mentioned in the original post as far as I know. His method of climbing with the stepps is top notch!
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Yes, the @Cain untie method was definitely the inspiration for this idea. I agree as well that his method of climbing with the stepps is easiest way to use them as far as I'm concerned. Thanks Cain!
 
I absolutely don't wanna take any fire outta Boyne!!! You made the video and did what never woulda crossed my mind even after watching Cain! So THANK YOU for your insight and work!!!


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I agree the @Cain method looks extremely fast.

The only thing I do not like about the @Cain
method is there is period when you are not tied in and a period of when you can fall greater than 4-6”. Our saddles are designed for constant weight in them and not are designed to take a fall, as is a fall arrest harness. You could seriously hurt your back if you fell.

Now that being said I think the knot and Cain’s method have a lot of merit.
 
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bigjoe said:
I agree the @Cain method looks extremely fast.

The only thing I do not like about the @Cain
method is there is period when you are not tied in and a period of when you can fall greater than 4-6”. Our saddles are designed for constant weight in them and not are designed to take a fall, as is a fall arrest harness. You could seriously hurt your back if you fell.

Now that being said I think the knot and Cain’s method have a lot of merit.
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There should not be a period at which you are not tied in. Either I'm tied in at my belt/waist or I'm tied in above me on the next step. However you are correct there is a time when you take a step up that if you fell, you would have a 3' fall. It is definitely not the safest method out there. If at any Time you are not tied in then your not doing something right. if I can help in anyway or explain it better I am more than happy to help.
 
boyne bowhunter said:
Yes, the @Cain untie method was definitely the inspiration for this idea. I agree as well that his method of climbing with the stepps is easiest way to use them as far as I'm concerned. Thanks Cain!
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Your welcome buddy, glad I could help. And I'm not done yet. Lol. I try something different all the time. I love the boyne method of tying the knot. I've gotten pretty fast with it. I'm working on a new method of climbing right now and if I can get it simplified, I think it will be useful to some people. I'm always trying to figure out how to get lighter, faster, and higher.
 
boyne bowhunter said:

This is a simplified method to make the knot which secures the Wild Edge steps to the tree. For me it really speeds up the time it takes to attach the steps. The final knot has exactly the same wraps as the traditional but using this approach eliminated the need to feed and pull the tag end of the rope thru the loops. I have the 8 foot ropes on my steps and found that in course of pulling the rope thru it often twisted and I would need to stop and straighten it out before pulling the knot tight. This seems to eliminate that twist.

This especially helps for installing the steps above your head if you're using the Wild Edge aider or the climbing method @Cain posted previously. Since the step is over your head pulling the loop down and thru is easy.

In fact I have to give credit to Cain for the inspiration for this when he demonstrated his knot untie method. I decided if you could untie by removing a single loop you should be able to tie in the reverse process. That's what this method does.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks, what a great help this will be in my sets. Thanks again to both of y’all.
 
I couldn't wait to get a set of steps, especially after watching Cain's method. I figured there was a way to tie the knot much easier after watching how he untied it. I'm glad you figured it out boyne bowhunter. Thanks for sharing!
 
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