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The Knaider in action

Fantastic job @Peterk1234

I really like your last video. Taking your time, being quiet and safe and it still only took 7 minutes to get to about 20'.

Add 1-2 minutes at the bottom of the tree to prep your bow pull up system, knaider, swampsnyper aider (now referred to as the SWaider), knee pads, Stepp ladder bag/ropes, and any other prep.

Next add 1-2 minutes at the top to set your tether, platform, bow hanger, accessories, pull up your bow, knock an arrow, and take a SHelfie.

This is easily a 10-12 minute setup once you're practiced. Even if you added a 5th Stepp, you'd be under 15 minutes.

This checks all the boxes, plus it's light. Excellent job.

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One final thought then I will shut up :)

I am 51 years old. I can still climb like a monkey. However, the goal was to have a method that would be first safe and second fairly effortless, so I can climb this way for at least another fifteen to twenty years. I think this setup will allow me to do that. Maybe the size of my steps may shrink a bit and I will have to add a step as I age, but that's ok because both aiders are adjustable. The system does not require hardly any upper body strength. Instead, like a rock climber, you are trying to take advantage of the strength in your legs. The leverage provided by the lineman belt is also important. Pete
 
Has there been a video on how you made the knaider? Or just the picture? Love all the testing you did on this and I’m also looking at this as a climbing method once i order my 10 steps. Thanks for all the hard work on this method.
 
Pete,
Your detailed description with accompanying pictures and videos help to understand your concept. I don't have any WE Stepps, but if I did, I would definitely try this system. Thanks for all your time on this project. Excellent job!
Bill
 
MJH said:
just don't fall and get entangled in the castration band...
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I am just recovering from my “fixin” so nothing to worry about there for me ;-)


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Peterk1234 said:
Here is the vid. I am going very slow since it was my first time going with the new setup. I was sloppy with my lineman's belt management because I was focused what the waider was doing during various stages of the climb. I will be smooth after a couple more times now that I trust it.

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Here is a legit climb. First time up. Tree is leaning, branches to go around and split limbs. Just a mess of a tree

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And...........the climb down.


Ok folks. I'm done. Someone else turn to refine this.
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Holy cow, I think I’m sold......
This is absolutely amazing. That puts the climbing set at what, 4lbs?? That’s approaching the lightest set of sticks, and in a much more packable size.

This method really just destroyed most other climbing methods... the longer aider could be done out of amsteel to reduce the weight even further. This has me really excited.

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Here are hopefully some better pics of the final products.

The Knaider: Try to find a stiff strap for going around the calf. It will help with support. As for the hook; I would not want it larger. I am curious to hear other people's findings. For now I am using a plastic tie to cinch around the foot. Trust me, you do not want the webbing to cinch down tight on your foot, both for safety and comfort. And ya, my sewing sucks.

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The SWaider: Length of Bungee will depend on where you clip. I have just enough tension on it so it flips the carabiner up as I climb. Makes it VERY handy to unclip. I clip to my harness. seems very convenient. The bungee needs to be cinched tight to the carabiner for it to work effectively and not risk coming off when you unclip from a step. Webbing is your friend, better than thin amsteel for this application. Webbing also needs to be cinched to the carabiner so it does not flop around when you are fiddling with the carabiner.

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All hardware came from strapworks. 1 inch metal hooks, plastic side buckles and 1 inch metal strap adjusters is all I used.
 
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Holy Crap, how did I miss this thread? Mad props to @Peterk1234 for doing all of the leg work, I thought the @redsquirrel WE climbing method was awesome this just blew my mind! I just got 8 stepps, and it's killing me being injured and not being able to climb.

I think we had a bunch of folks using the @redsquirrel method, has anyone else tried this? I think this will be my default, love it! Time to order some stuff!

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@Peterk1234 Where did you get that elastic cord? What size? What did you use to clasp it down?

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No clue how I missed this little video series...outstanding.
Based on the knaider threads I made a knaider and a single step amsteel whoopie aider and tried what you did.
Limited success based on different stepp spacings. Getting better and a new perspective now. Thank You @Peterk1234 :hearteyes::hearteyes::hearteyes:
 
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@Peterk1234 Where did you get that elastic cord? What size? What did you use to clasp it down?

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It is shock chord I had laying around. You can get it any of the online sailing stores, but I bet some hardware stores carry it as well. I also had the crimping tools and crimps for fastening, but you can use zipties, or get some stiff wire,make your own crimps, and use pliers to pinch it together.

@sdonx , I have been using this quite a bit during scouting. The system works awesome. I can keep it clipped to my harness when walking around, and just loop it on my feet when ready to climb. It is strong, stable and quick. I would love to hear someone else's opinion that is using it. I am sure there are improvements that could be made that I am just not seeing.

One more thing. I used the whoopie as my Swaider. It was only 1/8 inch amsteel. I found that it cinched my boot too much. One inch webbing is much more comfortable.
Pete
 
Awesome stuff, thanks for the quick replies, of course, I was too impatient to wait for your response and ordered my strap adjusters last night, glad I ordered a few extra, was gonna make a set for my brother but if I don't have to sew then he's on his own, lol.
 
Awesome stuff thanks Peterk. Here’s my first run at that gear.
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sdonx said:
Awesome stuff thanks Peterk. Here’s my first run at that gear.
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Nice work! Please let us know how that Amstel aider works out, double woopie sling, nice. I've been shopping for some Amstel to play around with, stuff is not cheap!
 
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