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What do you consider an acceptable 40yard group to feel confident on an animal.

Ontariofarmer said:
Exactly. No till and zone till and cover crops and manure and split nitrogen applications after an N soil test. Crop rotation
This is very very common in Ontario.

Oh and we feed a lot of deer and turkeys who snack for free which we try to shoot at thirty yards or less
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Down here it is still a plow the ground to crap and back, no use of cover crops, synethetic fertilizer only. Basically farming all the life out of the soil. Sustainable for some period of time but certainly not indefinitely.
 
BTaylor said:
Down here it is still a plow the ground to crap and back, no use of cover crops, synethetic fertilizer only. Basically farming all the life out of the soil. Sustainable for some period of time but certainly not indefinitely.
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Too bad, soil health is essential for long term, generational farming. We do use commercial fertilizer. They tried no commercial fertilizer in Sri Lanka
Result was civil unrest, riots food inflation and hunger.
Sorry for the thread side track again
 
Ontariofarmer said:
This is off topic but so is the above comment. As a farmer, I cannot say I agree with everything said here. Although I usually agree with Nutterbuster. He is an expert hunter but not a farming expert.
We can feed more than 8 billion people in a sustainable way. I could go on for hours. As far as livestock and the disproportionate comment. The WEF would have you eating crickets. Most of the western part of North America is pasture maintained in a responsible way supporting thousands of tasty rib eyes
Things can be improved and are being improved in agriculture but if the government interferes like they did in Sri Lanka or Ghana we will have food inflation, starvation and civil unrest
Nutterbusters comments are annoying enough that I had to respond.
I totally agree with what he said about what distance to shoot an arrow. He certainly is an expert hunter.
I think most Dutch farmers would agree and Canadian and American farmers that if the governments of the world control how we produce food we will all starve. Just ask a former member of a collective farm in the former Soviet Union how that worked out


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Preach it brother!!


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Ontariofarmer said:
This is off topic but so is the above comment. As a farmer, I cannot say I agree with everything said here. Although I usually agree with Nutterbuster. He is an expert hunter but not a farming expert.
We can feed more than 8 billion people in a sustainable way. I could go on for hours. As far as livestock and the disproportionate comment. The WEF would have you eating crickets. Most of the western part of North America is pasture maintained in a responsible way supporting thousands of tasty rib eyes
Things can be improved and are being improved in agriculture but if the government interferes like they did in Sri Lanka or Ghana we will have food inflation, starvation and civil unrest
Nutterbusters comments are annoying enough that I had to respond.
I totally agree with what he said about what distance to shoot an arrow. He certainly is an expert hunter.
I think most Dutch farmers would agree and Canadian and American farmers that if the governments of the world control how we produce food we will all starve. Just ask a former member of a collective farm in the former Soviet Union how that worked out


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Or be Bill Gates and buy up millions of acres of farmland to not farm it but push for Lab raised meat.
 
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Ontariofarmer said:
What distance can I safely shoot a cricket at and what arrow weight do I need. Should I use toothpicks as arrows so I don’t destroy the cricket meat. A new small game brought to you by the WEF



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I've eaten crickets and soldier fly larvae. Crickets were eaten as a dare the first time, but I buy them pretty regular at the Asian market now. Closest thing I can compare them to is salted peanuts. I like em. Soldier fly larvae are similar.

Mudbugs, mammalian glandular secretions, yeast waste, and bacteria colonized food are all delicacies in our culture. Why bugs scare anybody I don't know.
 
Nutterbuster said:
I've eaten crickets and soldier fly larvae. Crickets were eaten as a dare the first time, but I buy them pretty regular at the Asian market now. Closest thing I can compare them to is salted peanuts. I like em. Soldier fly larvae are similar.

Mudbugs, mammalian glandular secretions, yeast waste, and bacteria colonized food are all delicacies in our culture. Why bugs scare anybody I don't know.
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No you do not eat crickets regularly give me a break. But find me a cricket I can cook and pull the tail off and have a fluffy white taste of Cajun goodness and I’ll bite. Sure I suck the heads a little bit, but that’s different!

Milk is not weird despite the weird way you described it.

I don’t know what your last description was describing.

The whole why bugs scare anybody thing is like the terms homo-phobic/ trans-phobic. I’m not scared of gay/trans people, and I sure as heck ain’t scared of little ole cricket. I just prefer beef, milk, and crawdads.

Oysters are pretty weird though I suppose and lots of folks don’t like them. They’re some count though, and the best ones are from Mobile Bay.
 
gcr0003 said:
No you do not eat crickets regularly give me a break. But find me a cricket I can cook and pull the tail off and have a fluffy white taste of Cajun goodness and I’ll bite. Sure I suck the heads a little bit, but that’s different!

Milk is not weird despite the weird way you described it.

I don’t know what your last description was describing.

The whole why bugs scare anybody thing is like the terms homo-phobic/ trans-phobic. I’m not scared of gay/trans people, and I sure as heck ain’t scared of little ole cricket. I just prefer beef, milk, and crawdads.

Oysters are pretty weird though I suppose and lots of folks don’t like them. They’re some count though, and the best ones are from Mobile Bay.
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What other animal eats another species’ milk, without human interference? That’s weird.
 
gcr0003 said:
No you do not eat crickets regularly give me a break. But find me a cricket I can cook and pull the tail off and have a fluffy white taste of Cajun goodness and I’ll bite. Sure I suck the heads a little bit, but that’s different!

Milk is not weird despite the weird way you described it.

I don’t know what your last description was describing.

The whole why bugs scare anybody thing is like the terms homo-phobic/ trans-phobic. I’m not scared of gay/trans people, and I sure as heck ain’t scared of little ole cricket. I just prefer beef, milk, and crawdads.

Oysters are pretty weird though I suppose and lots of folks don’t like them. They’re some count though, and the best ones are from Mobile Bay.
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i think the yeast waste might be booze?
Maybe the best oysters around you are from mobile. come get ya some Chincoteagues! We killed off most of our DelMarVa oysters a long time ago but theyre so damn delicious i sympathize with em.

...and 40 yds is too far
 
kyler1945 said:
What other animal eats another species’ milk, without human interference? That’s weird.
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I mostly only consume it in assorted cheeses now. which might be even weirder when i think about the process. we some messed up animals
 
PEEJAY said:
i think the yeast waste might be booze?
Maybe the best oysters around you are from mobile. come get ya some Chincoteagues! We killed off most of our DelMarVa oysters a long time ago but theyre so damn delicious i sympathize with em.

...and 40 yds is too far
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I have had oysters from Washington, to Maryland, down to Florida and over the Louisiana. I’m partial to the Mobile ones because of where I’m from, but they are my favorite. Not sure if I have had those Chincotaegues specially though.
 
gcr0003 said:
I have had oysters from Washington, to Maryland, down to Florida and over the Louisiana. I’m partial to the Mobile ones because of where I’m from, but they are my favorite. Not sure if I have had those Chincotaegues specially though.
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MD has some decent ones but "Chincs" are the closest to the ocean and grow really clean and salty. You cant just walk the creeks and pick a bushel though. Erosion and every other issue with the chesapeake has destroyed our oysters along with most everything else. SC had some really good spots where we could go pick a ton without even getting in a boat. Not like that up here.
 
gcr0003 said:
Not this rabbit hole again…
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Haha just pointing out that the description isn’t weird. The behavior is weird.

It’s ok. But it seems like a distinction with a difference.

Now I want to know what other animal milk humans drink besides the well known ones…
 
PEEJAY said:
MD has some decent ones but "Chincs" are the closest to the ocean and grow really clean and salty. You cant just walk the creeks and pick a bushel though. Erosion and every other issue with the chesapeake has destroyed our oysters along with most everything else. SC had some really good spots where we could go pick a ton without even getting in a boat. Not like that up here.
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Oysters are seeding in Hudson Bay again. Hasn’t happened for a while.
 
kyler1945 said:
What other animal eats another species’ milk, without human interference? That’s weird.
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Besides the Oxpecker, birds such as Seagulls and Sheathbills have been reported to pilfer milk from elephant seals' teats directly. So, while it's quite rare, milk stealing does happen between certain other species in the wild
 
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