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What is current "state of the art" rappel gear for SH?

Swampwalker said:
Didn't mean to offend if I did. After rereading through I realize others were helped by meandering. Again, playing moderator helps no one. Lo siento.
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None taken. After spending years in submarines 2 things happen, the first is you can’t be offended and the second is you become a colossal instigator with collateral smartass duty.
 
Dmathews87 said:
Just to add my 2 cents....I also hunt off of the ATC with a schwabisch above which works perfectly...never found a good way to do this with the fig 8.
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The Kong Oka is a nice option, either the traditional configuration, or a more compact method, as shown. Wrapping the rope around the side horn gives more than enough friction to take all the weight off the hitch when descending.
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sureshotscott said:
Can't recall if this has been discussed lately, so apologies if this has been covered recently.

I typically climb with Lone Wolf Hand Climber. I would like option to rappel from certain trees where I have to adjust the traction belt during the climb up. Adjusting this belt is a PITA so if weight/bulk penalty of carrying rappel gear is not too high I'd rather just rappel down.

What's the latest/greatest rope and device combination for doing this?
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@Dmathews87 has got it right!!
 
With everyone running the skinny ropes now, the F4 is really a nice option. Just so many ways you can use it, either in a 2TC, SRT system or as a rapelling sytem for stick or even climber stands
 
I like how easy it is taking up slack with the ATC tending the schwabish. It's much better than the Madrock. Think I'm going to ditch the Madrock and go back to the tried and true ATC/friction hitch combo.
 
slonstdy said:
I like how easy it is taking up slack with the ATC tending the schwabish. It's much better than the Madrock. Think I'm going to ditch the Madrock and go back to the tried and true ATC/friction hitch combo.
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What’s your rope and hitch cord combo? I tried that and depending how many hitch wraps I used I could either get it to tend beautifully or catch me when I sat into the saddle.
 
@Dmathews87 I took my tether apart and moved the attachment to my rappel rope. I had a looped rope with a prusik so I stuck with that. Gave it a few test runs. Love it! Thank you, Sir.
 
Marmuzz said:
What’s your rope and hitch cord combo? I tried that and depending how many hitch wraps I used I could either get it to tend beautifully or catch me when I sat into the saddle.
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8mm Oplux with 6mmSterling TRC tied with either Distel or Schwabish hitch.

I went to the Madrock only because it allowed me to immediately rappel without having to swap over to my ATC. This only bothered me when I was in the middle of a climb and realized the tree or location wasn't what I wanted and had to get down. Pulling out rappel rope and swapping over was a pita and wasted too much time.

I found the penalty of going over to the Madrock was weight and bulk. I use 9mm Canyon C-IV with it to stay within specs. The weight of the Madrock is noticeably different compared to a hitch cord, and it drags the girth hitch down if there is any slack.
 
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First non practice climb. I dig it.
 
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