Why don't yall 2TC?

[tailgunner]

Folks just starting out may not be using something that keeps the slack out of the rope which means when it is unweighted it has potential to slip. A situation can occur where the tether could slide down a few inches or a few feet. It doesn’t take much, especially when stretching your movements too far where you could move a tether or drop a tether out of grabbing room. Especially for people maybe just trying this out with their lineman’s belt and tether. Just getting people thinking. Not everyone can be experts like yourself and Sam.

Still learning my dude.like I said I just haven't figyered out how to drop it.....yet......it just seems like my arm or leg is in the way .I'm probably wrong

 

[tailgunner]

This was a concern of mine also.im sure it will happen .I just haven't had it happen.i kind of forgot it after practicing.illhsve to watch for it

 

[Samcirrus]

Well, I am by no mean an 2TC 'expert' yet, so forgive me if I sounded smug. I by no means meant to belittle the well thought of question. However I do have what I feel is a good answer for it. And 100% I agree with having a 3rd tether, like northfourty said or red beard! I carry a daisy chain always as well, I've just fortunately never had to use it.
Here's why: I dont use a heavy steel quick link, but rather an aluminum carabiner to girth hitch both my tethers, and when I first started out I learned about the dangers of side loading and didn't like the looseness of just the rope through the QL or Cbn. So I have been using this type of girth hitch which doesn't side load the carabiner and also keeps tension on the rope when unweighted. It also makes it like a handle that I pull on to loosen the tether when I advance it up. The pictures, I hope explain this,and you can see it in action in my video from post #538.

 

[Samcirrus]

I use a bowline knot with a long enough tail to monitor, and climb with this hitch, then at HH, I use the mark on my rope to tie a JRB remote release hitch( with the bowline as the loop for my pull down line that I lock until rappel time. If I need to emergency rappel, I can always leave my rope in the tree, or just srt climb back up for it.
Under normal circumstances I would never rappel on this type of girth hitch as you'd never be able to get it out of the tree with a pull down rope....just to clairify!

 

[tailgunner]

Daisy chains duel purpose as a gear hanger too

 

[GeoFish]

Since my disaster on page 26 alot has changed. Tried again and couldn't get off the ground, and I was sober! Then I realised I wasn't putting my toe into the tree when standing on my foot tether.
I talked to @Red Beard and he set me straight. I wasent leaning back away from the tree while standing on my foot tether. I tried again today, changed my foot tether from Sterling HTP to a Amsteel daisy and that helped alot. I actually climbed the tree. It wasent pretty, but it worked.
I thought a stiffer rope for my tethers would work better, but as usual I am wrong again.
I think I need a different rope for my main tether. Some one posted about a 9mm rope more limber then HTP.
Any suggestions on what you guys are using?

 

[phatkaw]

I just got back in from practicing 2TC.
I can do it but not very good.
One-sticking is soo much easier for me...

 

[phatkaw]

I think I need a different rope for my main tether. Some one posted about a 9mm rope more limber then HTP.
Any suggestions on what you guys are using?

Each time I've tried I had a different combination of ropes/hitch/mechanical.
I'm guessing by the time I get any good at it I'll have figured out what works best?

I have a Swaider right now for a footloop and I do like that...

 

[Hall17]

Since my disaster on page 26 alot has changed. Tried again and couldn't get off the ground, and I was sober! Then I realised I wasn't putting my toe into the tree when standing on my foot tether.
I talked to @Red Beard and he set me straight. I wasent leaning back away from the tree while standing on my foot tether. I tried again today, changed my foot tether from Sterling HTP to a Amsteel daisy and that helped alot. I actually climbed the tree. It wasent pretty, but it worked.
I thought a stiffer rope for my tethers would work better, but as usual I am wrong again.
I think I need a different rope for my main tether. Some one posted about a 9mm rope more limber then HTP.
Any suggestions on what you guys are using?

@Redbeard what is the rope you are using? You said it was like HTP but a little more packable?

 

[Red Beard]

@Redbeard what is the rope you are using? You said it was like HTP but a little more packable?

Canyon DS. Contact @Brocky and have him make you what he made me. You'll be happy!

 

[Samcirrus]

Canyon DS. Contact @Brocky and have him make you what he made me. You'll be happy!

I'm about to buy a new to tether/rappel rope this canyon ds looks good. Wdyt abt this idea?

 

[Samcirrus]

It's on adventureplus.com for 1.91 per foot..... I dont want a sewn eye splice though or I would ask brocky....

 

[Brocky]

I have for $1.20 a foot, or have some spliced tethers and a rappel rope length.

 

[Samcirrus]

What is the difference though between the canyon pro ds and say oplux or teufulberger rope? Especially when it comes to moving the tethers up the tree. Does it snag less or stay put better?

 

[Samcirrus]

I have for $1.20 a foot, or have some spliced tethers and a rappel rope length.

By rappel rope length would you mean just 40' or do you have say an 80' length? I'm trying to climb some larger taller trees and need a longer length than just hunting height.

 

[Brocky]

From my testing, most flexible, left to right:
Oplux
Elite
DS
C-IV
Being rigid helps when moving a rope up the backside of the tree.

 

[tailgunner]

From my testing, most flexible, left to right:
Oplux
Elite
DS
C-IV
Being rigid helps when moving a rope up the backside of the tree.

What do you prefer

 

[Brocky]

The Oplux is nice and small, great for a rappel. I like the Elite for its flexibility, but not the bumpy cover. The other two are similar to each other with the DS not stiffening up as much as C-IV.

 

[krub6b]

That's what I was thinking...I use it for DRT so It should work on same size rope.

Finally put this plan to the test this morning and it works pretty dang well. I was using a 5 turn Blake's hitch that was tied 3/2, I'm not sure thats the best configuration for the blake's hitch but it worked well for my two short test climbs. I made roughly 8 up and 8 down movements today and really liked how stable it felt while climbing and how the foot loop stayed open and accessible even if I took my foot out. So far this is the best footloop I've used. I'm also happy to report that my new to me recon sling works pretty well while 2TC also

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Finally put this plan to the test this morning and it works pretty dang well. I was using a 5 turn Blake's hitch that was tied 3/2, I'm not sure thats the best configuration for the blake's hitch but it worked well for my two short test climbs. I made roughly 8 up and 8 down movements today and really liked how stable it felt while climbing and how the foot loop stayed open and accessible even if I took my foot out. So far this is the best footloop I've used. I'm also happy to report that my new to me recon sling works pretty well while 2TC also
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I plan to get out in the morning and do some 2TC. I'm happy to hear the Blake's hitch worked well in this application. I'll probably set that up as my foot tether in the morning too. I did work on a keeper for the Delta link a while ago. I had heard about a rubber fender washer but didn't have one on hand and didn't want to run to town, so I improvised. I took a 2-inch section of rubber air hose and split it down one side and took a 45 ACP case and used it as a punch to cut a hole in the opposite side. Having that cut down the opposite side allows it to grip the rope. So far, so good.

PS, I'm using the Recon sling as well.