Why don't yall 2TC?

[bj139]

I never did try this but hope to soon. I can use my SRT climbing line, as is. I need to make up a foot tether.

Girth hitching it works and I think Scott Adkins does. His videos are a must. I originally had the carabiner in there because I'm a nut for safety and was using it as a second tree tether before I switched to WorkPro. Oplux is plenty strong, it was just me. The foot loop is made from a old pack shoulder strap and 2" webbing with 1/8" stretch cord like Scott did it. I'll probably take the carabiner out.

I can confirm that girth hitching works. A bit snug with sneakers, but OK.

Boots, A OK.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

My middle finger is gonna be shorter from now on... lol

Well, now you won't seem as angry when you flip someone off.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

I posted these elsewhere but this is all I use to climb, no thigh strap required. Once connected to the bridge, simply step up, wrap other leg around tree, advance tether up, sit down into saddle, advance the foot loop up and repeat. You can also climb down in reverse order if you don't have a rappel rope.

The actual foot loop is just an amsteel continuous loop with a prusik around my spare tether.

 

[Weldabeast]

I posted these elsewhere but this is all I use to climb, no thigh strap required. Once connected to the bridge, simply step up, wrap other leg around tree, advance tether up, sit down into saddle, advance the foot loop up and repeat. You can also climb down in reverse order if you don't have a rappel rope.

The actual foot loop is just an amsteel continuous loop with a prusik around my spare tether.
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Use a linesman for advancing past branches?

 

[gcr0003]

Use a linesman for advancing past branches?

ooooo-good point! How are yall going around branches? I uses a linemans belt so it aint no thang for me but curious how yins do it.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

No. I have a 1/4" amsteel daisy for that. What I'll do once my tether is at the base of the branch is stand up in the foot loop, girth hitch the daisy chain and connect it to my bridge. At that point, I'll disconnect the tether, pass that above the amsteel daisy, reconnect everything and remove the daisy chain.

That way, I'm always 100% attached to the trunk and won't slip like you could with a linemans belt.

 

[Weldabeast]

No. I have a 1/4" amsteel daisy for that. What I'll do once my tether is at the base of the branch is stand up in the foot loop, girth hitch the daisy chain and connect it to my bridge. At that point, I'll disconnect the tether, pass that above the amsteel daisy, reconnect everything and remove the daisy chain.

That way, I'm always 100% attached to the trunk and won't slip like you could with a linemans belt.

Like a teeny tether? I have thought about making and incorporating into my system. I don't Tx2C so can't comment on that. I only use a linesman while climbing and use my tether/rappel when I need to get over a branch....maybe not the safest way but I'm comfortable with it

 

[MNFarmHunter]

That's exactly what it is. Just big enough to girth hitch and hold me while passing my rope tether over the branch.

 

[2Sloe]

I’m going to try that next year, but I don’t hold out much hope. Worst part of one sticking is constantly having to move the tether up….don’t know why I would voluntarily double the worst part.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

I haven't 1-sticked and don't plan on it but there are pros/cons to both as I see it.

1-stick
Pro:
Hybrid of 2TC and sticks by allowing for a traditional "stick climb" when there's alot of branches without extra stuff
Con:
Can greater overclimb your tether
Requires greater range of motion, reaching up high and twisting down low
While quicker on the climb once set, it seems like it would be more strenuous

2TC
Pro:
Probably the lightest option by not requiring anything but (2) tether ropes
Can't overclimb tether by more that 24"
Probably the quietest climb method, aside from SRT with preset

Con:
Probably the slowest climb overall
PITA if there's multiple branches to pass

 

[always89y]

No. I have a 1/4" amsteel daisy for that. What I'll do once my tether is at the base of the branch is stand up in the foot loop, girth hitch the daisy chain and connect it to my bridge. At that point, I'll disconnect the tether, pass that above the amsteel daisy, reconnect everything and remove the daisy chain.

That way, I'm always 100% attached to the trunk and won't slip like you could with a linemans belt.

I do the exact same thing, except I'm using a smaller diameter amsteel daisy chain. I'm comfortable with the strength of it as there is no chance of a shock load.

@easttndiy

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Custom Gear Modifications (CGM)

 

[kyler1945]

I’m gonna start reporting your posts if I have to look at your chewed up fingers one more time! Speaking of tore up fingers, I roughed mine up pretty good on some bark while climbing 2TC. I guess my fingies have become frail from typing all day. I’ll probably wear some mechanics gloves next go around.

Next, I used 8mm ultra tech for my tethers and I really just dislike the size of the rope. It packs nice but it is just hard for me to grab a hold of. I really love the 11mm predator rope for feel -and maneuvering up the tree. Also when I climbed 2T I used my friction hitches to advance my maneuvers and I think the hitches work better on the thicker rope. I’m debating on getting more predator tethers or trying something in between like a 9 or 10mm rope.

I need to make some tether covers like Aerohunter use to send with their tethers. I think they would serve a dual purpose of protecting the rope as well as aiding in the ease of progressing the tethers.

Lastly, I used my lineman’s belt as well as a adjustable webbing foot loop with two feet and I liked it a lot. I will likely try and make a better dual foot loop for my future climbs.

I will be trying this climbing method again. If I can nail it down I will try have to buy any more saddle gear for this season. I’ll just 2TC, ROS, Rappel.

Samson predator 45’ish...

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[phatkaw]

^^^ Wow, nobody bought that yet?
You better snatch it up @gcr0003 !

 

[caddis75]

I haven't tried it yet because it seems like this is geared towards seasoned vets. There's vocabulary that may be unfamiliar to someone who hasn't saddle-hunted for a while. The pieces need to be bought from various websites and it's hard to discern if this is the right rope or is this the right strength amsteel. It's inexpensive but requires a decent amount of small items. Yet, it's super appealing due to its weight and simplicity. Honestly, it's probably a good thing that you just can't buy a 2TC climbing kit, as all the research and messing around with it probably is necessary to do it safely.

 

[MNFarmHunter]

I generally hate using the words "safe" or "safety" because they can be highly subjective.

That being said, I'd argue that using 2TC to climb up and down is the safest. Rationale being you only need (2) tethers and (1) carabiner. Any other method requires more stuff which means more points of failure. However, it's not the easiest or quickest and we'll always add more "stuff" so in the end it's all relative.

 

[PapaBear]

I haven't tried it yet because it seems like this is geared towards seasoned vets. There's vocabulary that may be unfamiliar to someone who hasn't saddle-hunted for a while. The pieces need to be bought from various websites and it's hard to discern if this is the right rope or is this the right strength amsteel. It's inexpensive but requires a decent amount of small items. Yet, it's super appealing due to its weight and simplicity. Honestly, it's probably a good thing that you just can't buy a 2TC climbing kit, as all the research and messing around with it probably is necessary to do it safely.

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[caddis75]

2TC Pack | Custom Gear Modifica

2 Tether Climbing (2TC) is a light weight alternative to sticks! Includes a CGM Foot Loop to be used as a thigh band or alternate foot loop, a continuous loop (amsteel or sewn 6mm prussik), quality, rated carabiner, and an adjustable, fully buried Amsteel foot tether with the CGM Foot Loop, or...

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Interesting. From what I can gather it has the leg band, the long prussic, and carabiner as well as the foot tether, so I guess all you need is 8 or 9 feet or oplux or some other and a biner to climb up then a rappelling system on the way down?

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Interesting. From what I can gather it has the leg band, the long prussic, and carabiner as well as the foot tether, so I guess all you need is 8 or 9 feet or oplux or some other and a biner to climb up then a rappelling system on the way down?

Or you 2TC climb down. It’s not as cool as being Batman but it can definitely be done lol

 

[Tr33_n1nj@]

Or you 2TC climb down. It’s not as cool as being Batman but it can definitely be done lol

Well which Batman? Adam West or Ben Affleck

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Well which Batman? Adam West or Ben Affleck

Keaton! West’s costume was a little too fruity for my liking. I know some of you have nostalgia for the og Batman but I am an 80’s baby so Keaton is the only Batman I will recognize lol