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Why don't yall 2TC?

Arborist are going to work with work gear.not hunting with hunting gear.should i take my chain saw too instead of going around limbs,maybe my whole tool bag.and some extra usless loud metal stuff to keep my camo panties secure.the military are the best at killin stuff.maybe me ,buster,and the beast need tanks.
 
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RotoTillerGuy said:
Seems like the real experts at climbing trees are Arborists, they climb trees every day as a living, and unlike backyard saddle makers Arborist Grade Saddles have OSHA standards to meet and all sorts of other standards to meet ? That is why I chose to go with a more expensive and a bit heavier Petzl Sequoia. I wear it in so I don’t really feel the extra weight but I sure FEEL a lot more secure.

and as far as 2TC, again what do the Arborists use ? I bet they aren’t climbing using the inch worm method of 2TC. What is wrong with this as a method ? Arborists have been using this method for generations.
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Lol, many people use SRT, DDRT, and JRB as rope climbing methods.The tricky part is climbing a tree for the first time! Need a throwball, which can be tricky, noisy and hard to do in winter. Noise and weight are things arborists don't really consider.
There are pole grippers that are similar to tree spikes, and there are a number of big bulky ways of getting up the tree like climbers etc, but 2TC is simple and ultralight, and I'm telling you now that after much practice, if 2 of us both went to the same unprepared tree, I could 2TC up it just as fast and maybe quieter to 20' than someone throwing a throwball and then DRT/SRT up....unless they got really lucky.
 
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Once you climb a tree you like and want to be in again, I'll always have a 60' loop of cord to leave a preset in for next time when I will SRT/JRB.
 
Samcirrus said:
Lol, many people use SRT, DDRT, and JRB as rope climbing methods.The tricky part is climbing a tree for the first time! Need a throwball, which can be tricky, noisy and hard to do in winter. Noise and weight are things arborists don't really consider.
There are pole grippers that are similar to tree spikes, and there are a number of big bulky ways of getting up the tree like climbers etc, but 2TC is simple and ultralight, and I'm telling you now that after much practice, if 2 of us both went to the same unprepared tree, I could 2TC up it just as fast and maybe quieter to 20' than someone throwing a throwball and then DRT/SRT up....unless they got really lucky.
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It’s the safety aspect that I think is gained. Not falling out of the Ugly Tree and being hit by every branch is what I am hoping to avoid.
 
tailgunner said:
Arborist are going to work with work gear.not hunting with hunting gear.should i take my chain saw too instead of going around limbs,maybe my whole tool bag.and some extra usless loud metal stuff to keep my camo panties secure.the military are the best at killin stuff.maybe me ,buster,and the beast need tanks.
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The video that I posted used no metal on metal. Very simplified climb.
 
gcr0003 said:
Wait so what’s your reason for not climbing 2TC? Because it’s not what arborists do?
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The inch worming up, and then also inch worming down. As well as the safety aspect of not having to unclip and reclip, and unclip, and reclip.
 
Let's use the term "18 inch-worming" cuz that's a more realistic amount of movement.
Safety, well I feel that you should have a saddle clip in on both tethers, therefore redundancy when going around branches.
@RotoTillerGuy have you seen ALL the videos grc003 put on his you tube Playlist of 2TC.
 
RotoTillerGuy said:
It’s the safety aspect that I think is gained. Not falling out of the Ugly Tree and being hit by every branch is what I am hoping to avoid.
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No one has fallen or even come close to falling on a 2tc climb as far as this site is concerned. Lol, yr example of hitting every branch is funny if you're being sarcastic, but I'd be more worried about hitting the ground afterwards.
2TC is safe in that you can't fall without something breaking. Also its not the best method for a tree with many branches b4 25', but can be done. I have a pine tree climb on YouTube showing that.
 
gcr0003 said:
Red beard doesn’t even hunt outta trees anymore so you can’t trust a word he says, he’s a pacseat playa now
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They only still allow me to post on SH because I hunted from trees twice this year. Had to fill out an honor card and mail it to @redsquirrel.

Actually I was going for a themed hunting season this year... 2TC, 2 kills (doe and coyote), 2 trees, 2 of my kids wanted to hunt the woods with me, and perfected my 2 finger release. Think I nailed it!
 
RotoTillerGuy said:
Seems like the real experts at climbing trees are Arborists, they climb trees every day as a living, and unlike backyard saddle makers Arborist Grade Saddles have OSHA standards to meet and all sorts of other standards to meet ? That is why I chose to go with a more expensive and a bit heavier Petzl Sequoia. I wear it in so I don’t really feel the extra weight but I sure FEEL a lot more secure.

and as far as 2TC, again what do the Arborists use ? I bet they aren’t climbing using the inch worm method of 2TC. What is wrong with this as a method ? Arborists have been using this method for generations.
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I learned and used Drt and like it but there are very few trees in the areas where I hunt where it will work unless you are willing to carry around 150 feet of rope at a minimum. I really wanted it to work too. There are a few giant trees that I have set up for Drt, but as a run and gun method it just does not fit around here. We have too many straight limbless trees where the first load bearing limb would start at 60 feet. I really wanted it to work but it's not practical.

You would have to work hard at falling using 2Tc.
 
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I learned and used Drt and like it but there are very few trees in the areas where I hunt where it will work unless you are willing to carry around 150 feet of rope at a minimum. I really wanted it to work too. There are a few giant trees that I have set up for Drt, but as a run and gun method it just does not fit around here. We have too many straight limbless trees where the first load bearing limb would start at 60 feet. I really wanted it to work but it's not practical.

You would have to work hard at falling using 2Tc.
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In a tree like you are describing I would use my climbing rope and girth hitch it with a paracord release to extract it once I got down. I am sure you are girth hitching your tether already. At least I could rapell down, and then use my paracord to release my climbing rope.

It makes sense to 2TC on a pole like you are describing, and on a tree with too many branches to get a preset via a throw ball.
 
Ropes are good for realy big trees too.jrb esplaned to me why.if you spot a big old tree you want to set up in when you are scouting.its like a mental preset if you have a throw rope.then you only carry rope when you plan on going to one.even sticks have a placé for presets on private land.single steps are beter for going far.but then ....all roads lead to 2tc.every thing else is dead weight.
 
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There is a huge learning curve.but once you figyer it out .its like walking to the kitchen.hand à sniper à stick and string to put together he aint going to just walk out and hit bullseyes at 100 yards with arrows.but give him time .....his détermination does the rest.
 
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