Why don't yall 2TC?

[NMSbowhunter]

Nice. What type of knot is that below the Swabish on the foot tether that forms the tender?

 

[tailgunner]

i took the extra rope looped it back up and around and sewed it for a tender.the seperate foot loop with lanyard to bring the friction hitch up below the waist is key for this .using the adjustments takes the work out of it.easyer for me rather than pulling my foot out.after a week of practice my hip hurt from lifting and holding the same leg up.got lazy sublimented it with this.works

Nice. What type of knot is that below the Swabish on the foot tether that forms the tender?

 

[tailgunner]

Other wards when frisky,with out using the adjuster.I put the bottom of my foot against the tree up against my knee and go pretty fast. but the adjustible foot tether is a must,but dont take my word for it

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I'll have to work on something like that and give it a try.

 

[tailgunner]

the more i get familiar with knowing the ropes literally.the more im blown away by it.im go climb

 

[gcr0003]

You drop your foot loop or it falls down the tree where you can not load it to unweight your top tether and progress down. This is similar to dropping the bottom half of a climber. With no rappel line how are you getting down?

I have my way to get around this but I want to generate thought around the question.

 

[krub6b]

You drop your foot loop or it falls down the tree where you can not load it to unweight your top tether and progress down. This is similar to dropping the bottom half of a climber. With no rappel line how are you getting down?

I have my way to get around this but I want to generate thought around the question.

I had this happen at the bottom of a tree once, couldn't reach the ground or my foot loop and just released my harness and dropped the 3 inches I needed to be able to reach the ground. This isn't near as attractive above 3 feet though. and unlatching loaded cobra buckles is not an easy task either. may need to attach a small carabiner to some shock cord and hook it to my lower tether. Curious what others have to say about this

 

[NMSbowhunter]

You drop your foot loop or it falls down the tree where you can not load it to unweight your top tether and progress down. This is similar to dropping the bottom half of a climber. With no rappel line how are you getting down?

I have my way to get around this but I want to generate thought around the question.

This is one very good argument in favor of the rappel option, not to mention the ease and general fun factor involved, as well. One answer is that if you have a lineman's belt with you it could be used to make an impromptu foot tether.

 

[gcr0003]

This is one very good argument in favor of the rappel option, not to mention the ease and general fun factor involved, as well. One answer is that if you have a lineman's belt with you it could be used to make an impromptu foot tether.

Another option would be to attach your ROS or platform to stand on. If you had rappel you could do that as well after making a foot loop to take weight off.

 

[Red Beard]

One answer is that if you have a lineman's belt with you it could be used to make an impromptu foot tether.

Yep. Lineman's belt has the necessary ingredients to make a foot tether.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

If your top tether was a rappel line you could use the tag end to tie a foot loop but unless you needed to go up and attach a pull down, then at that point it would not be necessary. Just hook up a pull-down line and rappel out. If your top tether was just a regular tether and your foot tether fell out from under you, I guess you could throw your legs around the tree and bear hug it to take pressure off the top tether and inch down and repeat. I would not want to try this.

 

[Samcirrus]

You drop your foot loop or it falls down the tree where you can not load it to unweight your top tether and progress down. This is similar to dropping the bottom half of a climber. With no rappel line how are you getting down?

I have my way to get around this but I want to generate thought around the question.

A rope held to a tree in a tether-like way is unlikely to drop far down. Especially if you use a special type of girth hitch rather than just a quick link or carabiner.
I do agree 100% on this idea being just another great reason to use a rappel line for 2TC. My 2TC top tether/rappel rope is ready to be an SRT rope at the tying of a single knot.

 

[NorthFourty]

There's a piece of gear I have carried for years that fits this need. 1" webbing, not tubular, tied in a loop with a water knot long enough to go over my shoulder and under my opposite arm down at a 45 degree angle behind me and girth hitched around a deer's neck. I've drug them hundreds of yards this way without much trouble, but it's also my safety when climbing. Usually it's in my right front pocket where I can get at it if I need to girth hitch around a tree to step up and recover. Probably less than 3 ounces, but a big piece of mind.

 

[cmcclain88]

I most often use repel rope as top tether, however, if I did not, I’d just set down in the saddle. I am never without my “fishhook”,I use to retrieve dropped items. I do keep it free and use it tied to my pull up rope, therefore I would have to tie bow hanger onto tree, pull bow up and hang it in order to get foot loop fishing. Still beats being stuck!


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[tailgunner]

You drop your foot loop or it falls down the tree where you can not load it to unweight your top tether and progress down. This is similar to dropping the bottom half of a climber. With no rappel line how are you getting down?

I have my way to get around this but I want to generate thought around the question.

I can't figure out how to drop it yet.

 

[cedar paul]

Guys a rated oval link or Quickie for navigating branches is a much better choice than side loading the gate on a carabiner. I have been using them for a cinched climbing line for more than 12 years without incident please use equipment the way it was designed your family wants you to walk home not have to be pushed home ( no offense to my handicapped brothers).

 

[gcr0003]

I can't figure out how to drop it yet.

Folks just starting out may not be using something that keeps the slack out of the rope which means when it is unweighted it has potential to slip. A situation can occur where the tether could slide down a few inches or a few feet. It doesn’t take much, especially when stretching your movements too far where you could move a tether or drop a tether out of grabbing room. Especially for people maybe just trying this out with their lineman’s belt and tether. Just getting people thinking. Not everyone can be experts like yourself and Sam.

 

[Red Beard]

Folks just starting out may not be using something that keeps the slack out of the rope which means when it is unweighted it has potential to slip. A situation can occur where the tether could slide down a few inches or a few feet. It doesn’t take much, especially when stretching your movements too far where you could move a tether or drop a tether out of grabbing room. Especially for people maybe just trying this out with their lineman’s belt and tether. Just getting people thinking. Not everyone can be experts like yourself and Sam.

I'm a fan of keeping a 1/8 Amsteel daisy chain in your pocket -no matter what your climbing method may be- just for this reason. Works for self rescue if you need it. And if you don't, you'll never even know it's there.

Daisy chain has built in girth hitch loops and basically anything else you have on you (carabiner, autoblock, soft shackle, bit of webbing) can be fashioned to make a foot loop.

Autoblock:

Carabiner:

 

[TNSTAAFL]

I'm a fan of keeping a 1/8 Amsteel daisy chain in your pocket -no matter what your climbing method may be- just for this reason. Works for self rescue if you need it. And if you don't, you'll never even know it's there.

This is an excellent point. Virtually no weight/bulk penalty and loads of potential uses.

I carry a whoopee sling version of this, but can see the merits of a daisy chain in comparison.

 

[Red Beard]

This is an excellent point. Virtually no weight/bulk penalty and loads of potential uses.

Daisy chain is the unsung hero of saddle hunting