Dog tests on scent control

[boyne bowhunter]

You need the Coleman H2oasis. Great portable shower system. Best money I ever spent on something hunting related. Runs off 1 pound propane cylinders. 1 charge and cylinder does 40 gallons of water. 5 gallons does 3 showers easily for me.

Thanks, I'll check it out but I'm not offending anyone but myself and, as I said, I get noticed less after a couple of days.

 

[vabwhntr]

Thanks, I'll check it out but I'm not offending anyone but myself and, as I said, I get noticed less after a couple of days.

I don’t feel right if I can’t shower every day or at least every other day. Nothing is better than a hot shower after hard hunting. I think I smell worse than @huck72412 kids dirty diaper. Plus I can use it at home if the power goes out or something happens to the water heater.

 

[gabowhtr]

Let's say it does in fact work at eliminating your scent. Why would you want to take away a deers number one defense? Isn't it about the challenge? If there was a pill you could take to totally eliminate your smell, would you use it? Kinda takes away from the game if you ask me. And if scentlock did in fact be proven to eliminate scent it should be outlawed. Would you be proud to beat a top UFC fighter if he was handcuffed? Food for thought.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Let's say it does in fact work at eliminating your scent. Why would you want to take away a deers number one defense? Isn't it about the challenge? If there was a pill you could take to totally eliminate your smell, would you use it? Kinda takes away from the game if you ask me. And if scentlock did in fact be proven to eliminate scent it should be outlawed. Would you be proud to beat a top UFC fighter if he was handcuffed? Food for thought.

Man has always used technology when hunting... some say native Americans used wood smoke to cover scent while hunting. Is a gun technology. Is a crossbow or even a fancy long bow or any bow. Tree spurs should be banned... and WE steps and saddles.
The deer win most of the time anyway. I have seen 7 deer in 10 days and 4 hunts and have killed none - and I wear scent lok. I do not claim to be a great hunter.

When a group pushes a bush and shoots what comes out the other side... is that hunting or harvesting???
Should we shower before we hunt or is that not fair.
Scent lok is a tool that may or may not work depending on who you talk to. I use it in case it helps my poor and inexperienced hunting. I have no deer this year so I guess scent lok does not work. Or maybe there is more to hunting than scent lok. I am sure there is and I have a lot to learn.

Oh and some guys do use a pill - it is called chlorophyll to make them smell like alfalfa or at least their diapers or I mean saddles..

All said in fun... sarcastic humor to be taken lightly.

 

[GCTerpfan]

Let's say it does in fact work at eliminating your scent. Why would you want to take away a deers number one defense? Isn't it about the challenge? If there was a pill you could take to totally eliminate your smell, would you use it? Kinda takes away from the game if you ask me. And if scentlock did in fact be proven to eliminate scent it should be outlawed. Would you be proud to beat a top UFC fighter if he was handcuffed? Food for thought.

Why wear camo?
Why hunt from an elevated stand?
Why wear quiet clothing?
If it's about challenge run one down in your bare feet and a loin cloth and strangle it.

It just seems odd to sit an a $300 saddle, wear clothing that let's us stay out longer in worse conditions, shoot $1,000 bows or modern rifles and then draw some line in the sand at reducing our scent.

 

[ImThere]

If it's about challenge run one down in your bare feet and a loin cloth and strangle it.

This I want to see!


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[John Eberhart]

Trust me John... you dont want one of those suits. I know all to well... especially the old suits they turned everything they touched black with carbon. They were awful.. but I suppose I’m a good way of your in the wrong environment...

But for the scent wary fellows one of those suits would literally leak carbon

I'm aware those suits were not conducive for hunting. Was just making the point that militaries wouldn't use activated carbon if it would adsorb the chemical molecules.

 

[John Eberhart]

There sure is an awful lot of spam here about scent lok technology. Just an observation. BTW, to be clear, I'm a non -believer, AND you won't be able to convince me.

Keep hunting the wind and getting fewer opportunities and sightings. It you that has to do it and I doubt anyone else cares.

 

[John Eberhart]

Why wear camo?
Why hunt from an elevated stand?
Why wear quiet clothing?
If it's about challenge run one down in your bare feet and a loin cloth and strangle it.

It just seems odd to sit an a $300 saddle, wear clothing that let's us stay out longer in worse conditions, shoot $1,000 bows or modern rifles and then draw some line in the sand at reducing our scent.

AMEN about a thousand times. Turn into a spear chucker while hunting with a loin cloth I say.

 

[John Eberhart]

few

Another interesting FACT. ScentLok had a fire in their warehouse several years back when their new suits were in boxes that were not air tight (now they are poly bagged) and it took the insurance adjuster a couple days to show up.

When he walked into the front offices he could smell that there had been a fire, but when he went into the warehouse he couldn't smell any smoke odor.

He had no clue what ScentLok was or did but was shocked that the suits in the warehouse adsorbed all the odors of the fire whereas the smoke that went into the front of the building into the office area was still strong.

May be wrong but I think that many members here are also members of a specific other talk forum that wouldn't even let me post about scent control because their main guy doesn't believe in it.

Very close minded site that stifles knowledge and growth for it's members. But they seem to be ok with it.

 

[gabowhtr]

This I want to see!


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Let me see if I can find one that's 500 sq inches of blaze orange!

 

[huntin_addict]

Keep hunting the wind and getting fewer opportunities and sightings. It you that has to do it and I doubt anyone else cares.

I will. I'll also keep killing stuff. Thanks for your reply.

 

[flinginairos]

I will. I'll also keep killing stuff. Thanks for your reply.

I find this comment pretty funny myself. No offense to John, but I have used zero scent control measures the last two years and have had some incredible encounters with mature bucks and passed on more deer than I can even count. “Playing the wind” is a part of being a woodsman and I enjoy the learning process. I don’t kill the biggest bucks, but I have consistently killed one of my top hitlist bucks every year for quite a few years now. I guess all the guys on the Hunting Beast and the Hunting Public are just lucky without Scentlok


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[Ontariofarmer]

I find this comment pretty funny myself. No offense to John, but I have used zero scent control measures the last two years and have had some incredible encounters with mature bucks and passed on more deer than I can even count. “Playing the wind” is a part of being a woodsman and I enjoy the learning process. I don’t kill the biggest bucks, but I have consistently killed one of my top hitlist bucks every year for quite a few years now. I guess all the guys on the Hunting Beast and the Hunting Public are just lucky without Scentlok


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Skill


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[ImThere]

Let me see if I can find one that's 500 sq inches of blaze orange!

Blimpsie wouldn’t need 500 sq inches of blaze orange but I would love to see a man get a hold of a mature buck deer and wrestle it to the ground and choke it! I vote for the deer walking away from that encounter. Pure wild muscle.


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[EricS]

I find this comment pretty funny myself. No offense to John, but I have used zero scent control measures the last two years and have had some incredible encounters with mature bucks and passed on more deer than I can even count. “Playing the wind” is a part of being a woodsman and I enjoy the learning process. I don’t kill the biggest bucks, but I have consistently killed one of my top hitlist bucks every year for quite a few years now. I guess all the guys on the Hunting Beast and the Hunting Public are just lucky without Scentlok


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Some of us klutzes need all the help we can get. I worry a little less about scent control on public land than some of the small private parcels I hunt. On public I never hunt the same spot more than once or twice a season. If a deer I’ll never see winds me or smells my entry it doesn’t really bother me because unless I get a shot at it that day I likely won’t ever see it. I have access to a hundred acres of private and I don’t want to spook deer anywhere on that property. I may sit somewhere on that private 20 times this season. I personally kill most of my deer on public but see a lot more on private.

 

[flinginairos]

Some of us klutzes need all the help we can get. I worry a little less about scent control on public land than some of the small private parcels I hunt. On public I never hunt the same spot more than once or twice a season. If a deer I’ll never see winds me or smells my entry it doesn’t really bother me because unless I get a shot at it that day I likely won’t ever see it. I have access to a hundred acres of private and I don’t want to spook deer anywhere on that property. I may sit somewhere on that private 20 times this season. I personally kill most of my deer on public but see a lot more on private.

You bring up a good point. The land you have access to somewhat dictates how aggressive you can be with your setups and wind. I know personally i'm way more aggressive than most because I have so many spots to hunt. I'll hit a spot 1-2 times and move on to the next. I'm aggressive each sit because I'm moving in for the kill the very first time and if I blow it out I just move on. If you have limited access and have to hunt more conservatively I think any precaution you can take is worth doing. There are also less spots to hunt on smaller properties so having a stand based on each wind direction may not be an option. All i'm saying is I think it's silly to say someone will have less opportunity at mature animals just because scent control isn't used. There are TONS and tons of people that prove every year that is just not the case. It just comes down to what you want to put the most effort into. I'll freely admit that I have never been good at the scent control game, and focus my efforts into other areas that I feel give me the most advantage. Others will feel differently and that's ok as well

 

[GCTerpfan]

Some of us klutzes need all the help we can get. I worry a little less about scent control on public land than some of the small private parcels I hunt. On public I never hunt the same spot more than once or twice a season. If a deer I’ll never see winds me or smells my entry it doesn’t really bother me because unless I get a shot at it that day I likely won’t ever see it. I have access to a hundred acres of private and I don’t want to spook deer anywhere on that property. I may sit somewhere on that private 20 times this season. I personally kill most of my deer on public but see a lot more on private.

This is similiar to my situation. when I am hunting public I don't worry about scent control. I am constantly bouncing around and hunting new areas.

However, my own 90 acres is completely in a creek bottom with a 200-foot vertical cliff on one side of the property that causes constantly swirling winds. When I am hunting my property I have a fairly strict scent control regiment which include scent lock. The differences between the four years I hunted this property without scent control and the last 3 years with scent control are absolutely night and day. The property is literally impossible to hunt without scent control.

I think the reason this debate gets so heated is because the scent control non-believers don't just say it doesn't work for them. They say it's a farce and it doesn't actually work for me. I'm fine with someone saying something doesn't work for them but, to tell me I'm not intelligent enough to understand the significant differences in my hunting results between scent control and non scent control is kind of insulting. Especially when I started off as big of a skeptic as anyone and I have a science background and understand biases, etc. and how to analyze my results.

Edit: I should say SOME of the non-believers. the majority of the people carry on a productive conversation it's only a limited few that say "you're wrong and you can't convince me otherwise"

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Especially when I started off as big of a skeptic as anyone and I have a science background and understand biases, etc. and"

Really this is the key. Objective analysis. Is the science good Opinions and subjective thinking and feelings are irrelevant in the discussion
Most of the discussion is irrelevant including how many bucks we kill
Does scent lok reduce scent - for sure. Objective analysis

Is it enough to matter. Only the deer know. In my irrelevant subjective opinion it can make a difference especially if you are OCD about it


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[GCTerpfan]

Does scent lok reduce scent - for sure

Exactly, I'm not trying to argue that when I am practicing scent control I am fooling ALL of the deer ALL of the time but, I am POSITIVE I am fooling a lot more of them with scent control then without, and that includes mature bucks. To me that is worth the little extra work it takes.