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Introducing the 2017 Aero Hunter Kestrel

I have no problem with the price point. Given the high quality of material and workmanship I think the price is more than fair. I'd be surprise if new tribe made more than a slim margin of profit per saddle.


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You guys put way more thought into our pricing than we do. It's a formula that has to work or it doesn't work. It's an American formula so the pricing will be different then Made in China. We do what we do best.......keep people safe at heights.
Keep doing what you do best. For what you get, I think the price point is more than fair. When I am ready to upgrade from my original aero hunter, I'll be sticking with newtribe despite cheaper home brew options.

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I have no problem with the price point. Given the high quality of material and workmanship I think the price is more than fair. I'd be surprise if new tribe made more than a slim margin of profit per saddle.


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What do we spend on bows guns time off scent control ammo arrows Etc. The saddle is reasonable.


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New Hoyt,Mathews,PSE,and other top end Bows well over the $1k mark,a dozen arrows $70 to $150 and up,high end hunting clothes putting you in $500 worth head to toe without blinking....a freaking ICE CHEST for $400 bucks,
The price of the Kestrel (tree stand/safety harness combined) made in USA ?
Money well spent.
 
I've spent well over the cost of the kestrel on sit drags, lifting slings, webbing, buckles, rope, etc. Not everyone who wishes to enjoy the edge of saddle hunting mentioned above, can afford the time, focus, or money involved in making your own. As I've gotten older, I've realized those three things are all pretty much the same value to me.

For a public land hunter, these are your options:

Climber - 150-400.00

Hang on and strap on sticks/steps - 150-450.00

Kestrel and 1stick/SRT/Sticks - 400-600.00

I'm sorry, but the ability to stuff your entire climbing method, safety harness, and tree stand into a backpack, not have to wear a ridiculous full body harness that has as good of a chance of killing you as saving you, hunt any tree with a 4"+ diameter at hunting height, 360* shooting capability without making a sound, not have large amounts of metal clanging around during setup, catching every single branch and sticker bush walking in, Drop a minimum of 10lbs off your back (in many cases as much as 30) for long hikes in....I could go on.... Is worth an extra few hundred bucks.

Hell you spend that in extra gas over a season with the inefficient hunting you were doing pre-saddle.

I've progressed from Climber to heavy hang on and heavy sticks to light hang on and light sticks to light hang on and 1 stick to 1 stick and saddle to SRT and saddle. The ratio of deer sightings to hunts has increased exponentially over that time. And believe me, the hunting time I have available has not increased.

I tinker with making different saddles because it's fun, and I like broadening ideas. Plus, it might help someone who isn't willing to spend the dough on a commercial option, or also likes tinkering. But to say that the saddle is overpriced, or is in some way taking advantage of hunters, is downright wrong.

Honestly, for the amount of time and effort that goes into product development(that saddle didn't just click on the first mockup), we are lucky they are offering it at that price point. The buckles alone are about 100.00 on amazon. The rope bridge/carabiner would cost me 20.00. The webbing and material to build the saddle would be somewhere around 15-20.00. If I bought everything, and brought it to the seamstress I know in town, he'd have to be able to sew it in less than 2 hours for me to break even.

Let's go even further. Cut the cost of materials in half because they'll buy in bulk, 75.00. You're looking at a minimum of 3 hours of sewing, inspecting, handling per saddle once in production. it's got to cost them 15-20.00 an hour for that time. I'd be willing to bet they aren't making them for less than 120.00. Making 100-120.00 per saddle is right down the middle in retail. You're not even taking into consideration other overhead. I can assure you, if it cost any major supplier 120.00 to make something, they will sell it for 300% markup. Then, if it's popular enough, they'll source the materials and labor over seas, drop the price 25% to lure more people in, and rake in profit while undermining American manufacturing.

Keep doing what you're doing new tribe. I think you've nailed it with this product. I haven't been on this site long, but I'm proud to be a part of the little community where you're sharing your good work.
 
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I've spent well over the cost of the kestrel on sit drags, lifting slings, webbing, buckles, rope, etc. Not everyone who wishes to enjoy the edge of saddle hunting mentioned above, can afford the time, focus, or money involved in making your own. As I've gotten older, I've realized those three things are all pretty much the same value to me.

For a public land hunter, these are your options:

Climber - 150-400.00

Hang on and strap on sticks/steps - 150-450.00

Kestrel and 1stick/SRT/Sticks - 400-600.00

I'm sorry, but the ability to stuff your entire climbing method, safety harness, and tree stand into a backpack, not have to wear a ridiculous full body harness that has as good of a chance of killing you as saving you, hunt any tree with a 4"+ diameter at hunting height, 360* shooting capability without making a sound, not have large amounts of metal clanging around during setup, catching every single branch and sticker bush walking in, Drop a minimum of 10lbs off your back (in many cases as much as 30) for long hikes in....I could go on.... Is worth an extra few hundred bucks.

Hell you spend that in extra gas over a season with the inefficient hunting you were doing pre-saddle.

I've progressed from Climber to heavy hang on and heavy sticks to light hang on and light sticks to light hang on and 1 stick to 1 stick and saddle to SRT and saddle. The ratio of deer sightings to hunts has increased exponentially over that time. And believe me, the hunting time I have available has not increased.

I tinker with making different saddles because it's fun, and I like broadening ideas. Plus, it might help someone who isn't willing to spend the dough on a commercial option, or also likes tinkering. But to say that the saddle is overpriced, or is in some way taking advantage of hunters, is downright wrong.

Honestly, for the amount of time and effort that goes into product development(that saddle didn't just click on the first mockup), we are lucky they are offering it at that price point. The buckles alone are about 100.00 on amazon. The rope bridge/carabiner would cost me 20.00. The webbing and material to build the saddle would be somewhere around 15-20.00. If I bought everything, and brought it to the seamstress I know in town, he'd have to be able to sew it in less than 2 hours for me to break even.

Let's go even further. Cut the cost of materials in half because they'll buy in bulk, 75.00. You're looking at a minimum of 3 hours of sewing, inspecting, handling per saddle once in production. it's got to cost them 15-20.00 an hour for that time. I'd be willing to bet they aren't making them for less than 120.00. Making 100-120.00 per saddle is right down the middle in retail. You're not even taking into consideration other overhead. I can assure you, if it cost any major supplier 120.00 to make something, they will sell it for 300% markup. Then, if it's popular enough, they'll source the materials and labor over seas, drop the price 25% to lure more people in, and rake in profit while undermining American manufacturing.

Keep doing what you're doing new tribe. I think you've nailed it with this product. I haven't been on this site long, but I'm proud to be a part of the little community where you're sharing your good work.

I think a lot of people forget it's more than just the material in the product companies have to charge for. New Tribe has a brick-and-mortar shop somewhere. The electricity has to stay on, the water needs to keep running, along with other expenses. Add in cost of maintaining an ecommerce website to process digital payments online. And then figure in paying an hourly or salaried worker to do the work of actually manufacturing the saddle. And if they're really lucky they might have health insurance and a 401k/retirement plan, but those are generally luxuries for small businesses.

I'm not saying it gives small businesses a license to gouge, but there's so much more to it than just the finished product that ends up at our doorstep. Keep doing what you're doing New Tribe and we support you!
 
How can you put a price on safety. Guys will pay a thousand dollars for a bow or a gun. I would gladly pay for safety . A lot of people take safety for granted please don't trust me I know.
 
Way to blow it for him, Hurst 1!!! LOL

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I didn't want to blow it up for anyone, but I did have to check a calendar! I have a job bidding tomorrow, and I thought I missed it, when I read ADP's post I was like oh ****! Lol
 
I didn't want to blow it up for anyone, but I did have to check a calendar! I have a job bidding tomorrow, and I thought I missed it, when I read ADP's post I was like oh ****! Lol

Im a third shifter and im always off a day ... tonight is my friday which really messes with me BUT this crazy schedule allows me lots of hunting and fishing lol


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I'm order #421. Called today and they said first batch is going out Sept 1, second batch is going out Sept 15. I hope I'm in the first batch, RI Zone 1 opens Sept 15!
 
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