Whispers Death
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I do things quietly and try not to climb if deer are within 20 yards of my tree. I don't know what on earth you guys are doing to make so much noise.
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donnieballgame
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I put some stealth strip on my grigri 2 it made a huge difference, it's only slightly noisy when I'm opening it to put in the rope.
I didn't like the lifeguard it was a lot rougher on the decent and it didn't lock as well, I think it would be better for delaying though.
I will try the ropeman in place of the hand ascender it would be nice to get rid of something, although I would have to move my ropeman to my tether but that's not a huge deal. We'll see how it goes!
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I didn't like the lifeguard it was a lot rougher on the decent and it didn't lock as well, I think it would be better for delaying though.
I will try the ropeman in place of the hand ascender it would be nice to get rid of something, although I would have to move my ropeman to my tether but that's not a huge deal. We'll see how it goes!
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Agreed. It's wicked quiet. I'm all in now that I'm getting more comfortable with it. Every good tree I hunt with sticks or spurs is now getting paracord. Quiet. No linemans belt dance around multiple limbs. And I could care less if someone needs to steal my paracord.
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I'd just be more bothered if I got to a spot and my paracord was gone! It would just put a wrench in the hunt.
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There is always that chance. Same goes with any preset. I know I've had steps and sticks stolen in the past. I'm packing my rocket regardless. Also an aider or sling as a backup method, but I have a simple backup regardless of climbing method
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I think someone, forget who was talking about using a sling shot, lead weights and 50lb braided line, leaving fishing string is a lot cheaper and wh o cares if it goes missing, although it could still wreck your hunt like Red was saying. I haven't tried this yet and I'm assuming you still wouldn't did it in the dark or on a sneak into the tree but I think it could work really well, I'm just not sure if you pull up the srt rope with the fish line or 550 then the srt line. I've also been using the 550 to pull up my bow.
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I have a couple 1000 yard spools of camo paracord. That is enough for about 100 trees. Spools were about $40 each. So I have 80 cents of gear that could be stolen in each set.
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I've got one spool but it was about 54, where did you get one for 40?
I've only got a few trees setup
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Google "Camo Paracord 1000" and you should be able to find something close. At least 8 dollars cheaper. A lot of vendors around $46. If coyote or olive drab, looks like as low as $36.I've got one spool but it was about 54, where did you get one for 40?
I've only got a few trees setup
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I'm using the rocket bag and zing it for run and gun but I'm also setting paracord after climbing with spurs or sticks.
As for the stealing thing, one could also tie the paracord off the ground. Then use an aider climb and untie it. No different than removing tree steps / steps.
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I'll poke around online, since I have one spool, I'm probably good for now, was gonna try the sling shot and fishing line though since it's so cheap, I'll let you know how it goes if we don't hear from whoever on here was doing that. I think the system might be light enough that I can have it with me all the time, we'll see.
I'm not really worried about theft, just don't wanna get there at 0530 in the morning to have it gone. I don't think you would see my setups unless you walked right into it, they are pretty hard to see and I know where to look and can't find them sometimes.
I think it would be too difficult to climb up with an aider then pull up the ropes and swap, not that it couldn't be done, I don't think I'm that nimble in a tree!
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My rig is two Ropeman and will try the carabiner pulley trick and an ATC descender
I've never used the slingshot and lead weight set-up before but I have used a throwline once or twice and my gut feeling is that unless the woods around you and the tree are really clean it could be a lot more problematic than it sounds on paper. In the dark, forget it. I could possibly see ditching the slingshot and using a 3 or 4 oz torpedo sinker painted bright like florescent yellow and use pink Fireline if they still make it or something similar. Just use the sinker in the same manner as a throwbag. My guess is it will end up a tangled mess after the first toss if you miss but may be worth try.
If doing presets, I would be inclined to use a standard throwbag with zing-it or comparable to get the pick in the tree. Then pull braided fishing line up to leave behind so nobody sees it. Then when going to hunt, use the fishing line to pull a piece of throwline up that's that's then attached to your climbline. Paracord has way more friction than real throwline and it's too supple making it more "tangley" as a throwline. 20 years ago I got all excited and tried some new paracord-like throwline that came out. I gave it a legitimate try for a week and went back to slickline. Even with its shortcomings it was a much better line IMO. The new throwlines that are out now are much better than the old stuff.
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Even cheaper than paracord is braided nylon. I bought a 3000' spool of 1.4mm, which is slightly thinner than the thinner throw lines available which are 1.75mm. So you need to be mindful not to cut into the wood or bark but I haven't gotten it stuck yet. If you do ever get throw line stuck or a rope not passing through a crotch right pull back on the rope side a foot or two and find a stick to wrap the throw line around a few times and use the stick as a handle so your hands dont slip or get cut. I think I paid $15 for 3000' spool, cant beat that!
I also preset multiple trees in one hunting spot partly for different winds but mostly so I can adapt to any new sign changes day of, or to suit my fancy that morning. It also serves as back up if I do accidentally cut a notch in a limb that I cant pull a rope through or if someone removes a line, which I have never had happen. If you tie(or wedge in bark) your string it wont catch your eye in the wind it'll move like a vine, anchored at top and bottom.
but yeah at $15 dollars for 3000' with an average 25' tie in height, that's 0.25 cent a per tree!
I also preset multiple trees in one hunting spot partly for different winds but mostly so I can adapt to any new sign changes day of, or to suit my fancy that morning. It also serves as back up if I do accidentally cut a notch in a limb that I cant pull a rope through or if someone removes a line, which I have never had happen. If you tie(or wedge in bark) your string it wont catch your eye in the wind it'll move like a vine, anchored at top and bottom.
but yeah at $15 dollars for 3000' with an average 25' tie in height, that's 0.25 cent a per tree!
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I like it. I use 1.75 mm zing it on a 10 or 12 oz rocket. It's pretty easy. Under brush can be a headache. And yes, you aren't going to run and gun at dark thirty. I have over a 100 perennial trees. I'm setting many with paracord. I keep zip lock bags with paracord pre-cut. Grab one every time I'm carrying the sticks or spurs. This looks like a good option. A little shinier than paracord but it should hold up well.Even cheaper than paracord is braided nylon. I bought a 3000' spool of 1.4mm, which is slightly thinner than the thinner throw lines available which are 1.75mm. So you need to be mindful not to cut into the wood or bark but I haven't gotten it stuck yet. If you do ever get throw line stuck or a rope not passing through a crotch right pull back on the rope side a foot or two and find a stick to wrap the throw line around a few times and use the stick as a handle so your hands dont slip or get cut. I think I paid $15 for 3000' spool, cant beat that!
I also preset multiple trees in one hunting spot partly for different winds but mostly so I can adapt to any new sign changes day of, or to suit my fancy that morning. It also serves as back up if I do accidentally cut a notch in a limb that I cant pull a rope through or if someone removes a line, which I have never had happen. If you tie(or wedge in bark) your string it wont catch your eye in the wind it'll move like a vine, anchored at top and bottom.
but yeah at $15 dollars for 3000' with an average 25' tie in height, that's 0.25 cent a per tree!
You guys are welcome to use my sets.
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I'm old school. Petzl Rig most of time but also GriGri2, Petzl Ascension, Petzl Fixe micropulley, Petzl footpro, Petzl William Carabiner, and ISC Luke Oval Carabiner.
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Even cheaper than paracord is braided nylon. I bought a 3000' spool of 1.4mm, which is slightly thinner than the thinner throw lines available which are 1.75mm. So you need to be mindful not to cut into the wood or bark but I haven't gotten it stuck yet. If you do ever get throw line stuck or a rope not passing through a crotch right pull back on the rope side a foot or two and find a stick to wrap the throw line around a few times and use the stick as a handle so your hands dont slip or get cut. I think I paid $15 for 3000' spool, cant beat that!
I also preset multiple trees in one hunting spot partly for different winds but mostly so I can adapt to any new sign changes day of, or to suit my fancy that morning. It also serves as back up if I do accidentally cut a notch in a limb that I cant pull a rope through or if someone removes a line, which I have never had happen. If you tie(or wedge in bark) your string it wont catch your eye in the wind it'll move like a vine, anchored at top and bottom.
but yeah at $15 dollars for 3000' with an average 25' tie in height, that's 0.25 cent a per tree!
That looks like a good option, glad I didn't buy that second spool of 550, lol, not sure I'm following on the stick thing, got any pictures? I agree that I should setup multiple trees in one location, that makes a lot of sense in my mind, but I think it's kinda too late for that right now. I've been carrying extra cord so I can setup a tree that I climb with my XOP hand climber, just haven't done that yet.
How do you not use the foot loop? And are you using the climbing rope as your tether too?
It does take a little more upper body strength without the foot loop, but I just reach up and grab the ropeman and pull up with my left hand and pull the rope down with my right hand. It's really not that bad. and yes I'm using the climbing rope as my tether that way at the end of my hunt I just remove the ropeman and descend. I'm always connected.